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Probably closer to £15K in the UK when you factor installing costs…and £20K when you factor in solar panels…. The current government feed-in-traiff for solar panels is quite interesting already, though to make the numbers work your talking about 15-20 years, which means it only makes sense if your likely to be in the same house for decades. But your right at the moment the incentives aren’t good enough to consider a home battery storage system, but I think it’s more likely than not in the next few years we’ll see more ‘carrots’ in the form of EV grants/tariffs for people to move away from fossil fuels and increasing ‘stick’ / taxes for ICE cars. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32512152 However the biggest benefit of the Tesla batteries is if the utility companies take up the potential to ‘store’ energy generate from unpredictable resources like solar/wind/tidal, and than release that stored energy to meet peaks in energy demand without having increase out-put from traditional generators. Which in turn may help to lower electricity costs for every one On another note…

Personally I don't agree with the government giving Tesla £5k for every car it sells (or how ever it works). i Infact if you can afford it, you can stick big enough solar panels on your roof,buy the soon to be released Tesla 'home battery pack' which will let you store your solar energy generated at day time and use it at night. So you can now run your £60K super saloon for £0 off Tesla Superchargers for the next 5-10 years (whilst claiming every green grant/traiff going), and also generate/store your own electricity. In effect your totally insulated from fluctuations in energy costs, whilst everyone else has to pay the going rate. Given the majority of Tesla S on UK roads have very expensive private plates on, the wealth elite has no doubt caught on to this, when you add in tax incentives, I'm sure there's more than a few London Tesla owners driving in their £80k cars (majority of Tesla's sold are the top spec/battery versions) around for not much more what I'm paying for the Leaf.....But that's a whole different debate, we all know the rich keep on getting richer, but with these rapid changes in technology, they are going to be getting richer even quicker!!

To be honest give me the chance to terminate the contract on the Leaf without penalty for a £60K Tesla I would bite your hand off But at the same time having now got use to driving an EV I wouldn't want anything else, certainly not any of my old cars. I can guarantee 100% keeping my 335i would have cost me another £4 per year in just fuel/insurance/repair costs before you even take account of deprecation. I'm treating the Leaf as my EV experiment, I honestly had no idea how I would get of with it, my reasoning was spending £4k over 2 years on something horrid was nothing compared to dropping £60k on a Tesla and than realising its a piece of rubbish. The Leaf is nothing more than 'normal ' boring family hatch back, but boy is it a good one....Worst thing about it, is the attention it attracts!! Virtually every time I stop to charge it up somewhere, randoms come up and ask me questions about it. This weekend whilst been stuck in a traffic jam on the A406, some random white van man even honked up me and we had 5 minute conversation about the Leaf whilst creeping in traffic Charging isn't expensive even if you pay, this about £1.5 overnight, but why pay when it's totally free Tesla supercharges are paid for, they are included in the price of the car, and currently free for the life-time of the car, that may change when the cheaper Model 3 comes out around 2017.

On the issue if charging. A rapid charger will charge my Leaf from 30% to 70% in about 10 minutes. A Tesla supercharger apparently can deliver 170 miles of charge per 30 minutes. Not been able to use the heater/lights....I think your thinking about the GWizz . The Leaf has more gadgets than my old BMW, and the tech in the Tesla is on a different league from anything else on the road. So unless your driving to the maximum range of the car everyday you don't actually need to plug these thing every night. I've done 800 miles in 4 weeks of the owning the Leaf, I've plugged it in overnight, twice. I charge the car when its parked up whilst am doing my shopping, in town at meetings etc, the biggest headache I've had was the 200 miles round trip down to London, plenty of rapid charges en-route, but because they are 'free' 50% just weren't working, due to poor maintenance.....A Tesla with a 200 miles+ range and access to the Tesla supercharger network would have solved that issue. Unfortunately there is no way for me to terminate my Leaf contract early without giving Nissan £4k.....But at least now over the next 23 months I have half a chance to save up enough for a P85D....It costs a disgusting amount of money to buy, but I'm not sure if I can resist!! Speaking of fuelling up, have go and fuel up the Lexus this afternoon....Hope I can still remember how things work at the petrol staton...Must also remember to pay, and not just drive off

I think ICE cars will always be around, much in the same way as horses are still around and people love to ride/race them....When I get my double garage I'll be buying a DC2 ITR to keep/do-up, and use for weekend, but for every day stuff of getting from A to B, I'll have no interest in ICE cars. Great video...but a Tesla model S I can afford to buy, run every single day, and get the approval of the wife....A Dodge Hellcat, I may be to buy one (and get a divorce at the same time), but it's running costs will put big dent into my monthly out goings

Am sure everyone's bored of me going on about the Electric Leaf and Tesla etc...But this quite a funny read written by a Swedish Tesla owner http://teslaclubsweden.se/test-drive-of-a-petrol-car/

I have to say that kid's face sums up my feelings about the three cars in the photo

I just think nice/classic cars should be bought and used, have money spent on them if needed, not kept locked up as a musem item. As regards to buying one for short term investment, it's a risk, you have no idea where prices are heading, or if something's going to break etc....If your willing to take risk there's plenty of investment 'options', I know a few people who have had 10-12% return on their investment portfolios in the last 18 months, but it's all a risk, and they can afford to 'loss' the initial investment...Which if you look at current stock market trends, they might just end up doing if they don't sell up soon....But when you have an investment product returning 10% interest, it's very hard to let it go...untill it's too late...I think it's called 'greed' . The only 'safe' appreciating assets I can think of is good old land/houses.....I'm not saying buy-to-let is a good way to plan your pension, but on the whole house prices just go up and up over the decades...If you can afford to move, and not have to sell your current house, by the time you've moved 3 times your have a nice little property portfolio....I'm seriously thinking that's the way we'll going to go. It'll mean another massive 85-90% LTV mortagage when we move again, but longterm wise, it's a pretty safe way to increase your equity....Providing interest rates stay put, otherwise it'll be a living nightmare, if rates go up, you cannot afford the mortgage, and the market takes a nose dive so you cannot even sell your old house, teneants defaults on rent, and now you have two mortagages to pay with no cash in the bank Randomly came across this...Written in 2011, predicting the next reccesion will hit 26th of April 2015...Driven by debt(what else) but this time in China. http://www.slate.com...ic_of_2015.html And in Feb 2015, everyone is now worried about debt in China...Because actually alot of the drive for the stupid house prices in the South/London is by forign cash (financed by debt) http://www.bloomberg...t-spur-stimulus So actually maybe just 'investing' £4K in a old DC2 Integra R and than doing it up in the garage might be most sensible thing to do

Looks amazing....and also very We went to Iceland to see the northern lights a few years ago, but the 4 days we were they it was just a constant blizzard....Day of leaving, clear blue sky

Interestingly (maybe only for me ), according to the Times. If you invested £10k in the FTSE 100 over the last 15 years, if your unlucky enough to have gone in 'high' and got out 'low' you would have only £5k left. Reverse the situation, the best case is a £20k return (100% 'profit')....Which only just about matches boring old 'saving'!!

To be honest though unless you find something ultra rare, if you just want to save money/invest most of the cars mentioned don't appreciate enough to be best just sticking the money in the bank. £10,000 saved up for 20 years (about how long you have to keep these cars for) with a 4% average interest rate (last 5 years of 0.5% is really abnormal historically), would be worth £22,000 due to compound interest. Given if you buy one of these cars to invest in, you never drive it and it'll just sit in the garage, I don't see why you would buy one as an investment....Unless your super rich and want a garage of cars to stare at?? It's kind of sad that some of the best HyperCars in the world are destined to just in a garages of the ultra wealthy and never ever been enjoyed for what they were designed to do

I was randomly watching location location the other night, the exact words of Phil was...'I've never seen the market this busy...not since the big crash in 2008' I don't think it takes a genius to work out how things might go over the next 12 months

I just thought I share the info for people who might be interested. DMU (in Leicester) have organised an EV car event, confirmed cars: Tesla S Elise - electric BMW i3 - Supplied by BMW BMW i8 - Supplied by BMW Vortex EV VW e-UP Vauxhall Ampera An ICE formula ford car - Built by DMU - I think they are there for a 'free' track day. and ofcourse the all might Leaf http://dmu.ac.uk/demoday

I think I use to get annoyed at people cutting in line, but these days I couldn't careless. We visit India on a regular basis, the standard to driving there....well there isn't a standard

Sounds like horrible week....When I do finally get another decent (non-ugly) car I'm definitely going to see if I can clear the garage and use it for the car rather than just storage. Unfortunately idiots live everywhere, a few months ago someone keyed about 6 cars on our road ....Luckily we only had the old Civic parked on the road, which apparently they deemed not worthy to be keyed, and the BMW just happened to be else where (probably with Mitz getting fixed ) Hope you get it sorted out

Just checked on their website, the Quaife LSD on your 645i is only £1500 including VAT....That's already a £500 'saving'

Great lot of cars, shame about the roads/traffic This is why I had a Quaife LSD fitted in the 335i after about 2 weeks of ownership. Birds BMW down near Heathrow will sort you out. Takes a day to fit (£2k in total), but they'll let you have a go in their modded monster 335i....However for the sake of your wallet I would advise NOT to even look at the modding options on your BMW Have you booked your Tesla test drive yet?

It may be ugly, but carries the pedal bike better than the 335i. I'm more than happy with it....My hard earned cash seems to be now staying in the bank account rather than disappearing on car related stuff .... Let's see how long I can last before I hit the 'order' button on the Tesla. Lucky the early termination fee on the Leaf is £4K...So Nissan really don't want these things back till 2017 (Maybe even the dealer cannot stand looking at them all day ).

That looks good, but my only issues with hybrids (including our Lexus) is that they are neither excellent ICE cars or EVs. Compared to ICE cars they carry a weight penalty + complex power transfer method, compared to EVs, they still have the outdated ICE. I still don't understand why many mainstream manufactures are still obsessed with pushing hybrid performance cars....Even the base spec £55k Tesla S is almost as quick as the £100k BMW i8, and the Tesla can be used as a family car whilst the i8 is really nothing but a toy for the super rich ...and the top spec P85D which you can already buy makes this 'concept' look...well frankly slow. And with only a 3 kWH battery powering two 90-100 kW motors, it's going to have a real life EV range of under 5 miles if you really push the car.....Based on the fact my Leaf will devour 4 kWH of power in 7 miles, and that only has one 80 kW motor. Nissan/Infiniti clearly gets it. Apparently Infiniti has just pulled their 180 mile range EV to do a complete re-design to compete with Tesla. Tesla are apparently also talking/helping a 'major' car company advance their EV program.... I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan announces a 500bhp+ e-Z sooner rather than later

Nice sunny day, free afternoon, so wasted some time doing a quick video of the Leaf....Had some fun too, throwing it round some back roads...Couldn't stop smiling at the end of the afternoon, best of all, cost me a grand total of £0 in fuel, thanks to free rapid charge at Nissan Leicester whilst we had a lovely walk around the local park....Have to be careful though, if I start hugging trees, someone needs to give me a slap

Unless you have an off set mortgage Not when the mortgage is at 2.99%, pretty much paid off, and with less than 10 years left on the term I looked into paying the mortgage off as a lump sum after I sold the BMW, but actually with the low interest rates and my plan to waste about £50K on a car in 2 years time, it makes more sense to keep the mortagage going, and than if I need to, in 2 years I'll have the option to 're-mortagage' at a stupidlly cheap rate, and than pay if all off again pretty sharpish, whilst still having access to equality that's not locked up. Looked at 'stock/shares' funds. Many people reporting 8-10% returns in the last few years with a mixed portfolio, and I know on the whole, the FTSE 100 has gone up decade on decade....But I'm just a wuss, and don't have enough balls to lock a large sum up in a 5 year investment fund

So you can only spare £2k cash for initial purchase. I take it you have worked out the cost of insurance, servicing, repairs etc in addition to your finance payments? From memory the Z wasn't expensive to run, but wasn't cheap. Just make sure you've budgeted for everything.

If you think you can get a profit go for it. Interests rates are so awful at the moment, pretty much anything bears saving cash.

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I think you need to be a bit more than just a good salesman to persuade NASA to part with $2 billion of US taxpayers money!! This guy's achievements make Steve Jobs look like a underachieving delinquent and certainly makes me feel like I've rather wasted my life Though I'm sure he didn't tell NASA that they named their rocket after the Millennium Falcon in their grant bid.....Sometimes I really wish I took up the option to study physics/engineering at Cambridge all those years back https://youtu.be/OeW0E-YMKjo?t=2m21s