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I refer you to part of the OP's opening post:- "If you wish to disagree with me or correct on any point then by all means do, but at least give a reason for it: In turn, I'll try to do the same. If all I achieve with this post is to make just one person stop and think before they order a set of ditchfinders, then that's good enough for me. :)" Personally I didn't feel as if I was being called an idiot, neither did I feel it was based on hearsay as the OP made it quite clear that he HAD driven on these tyres I believe Dan has driven his brother Zed alot on the tyres he is discussing here. I wouldn't say he is slagging them off either. More just discussing the pros and cons of certain brands. In this thread look at others. Why a post based on here say and telling everyone we are idiots because we don't know the function of tyres and should buy the most expensive even if we don't need the extra performance, was stickied i dont Know.

Dan you were right about Giugiaro, just went out and checked my new Vred's, see picture. Can't comment on them too much compared to the Falkens which they replaced as I've only done about 300 miles or so and want to make sure I've got all the tyre manufacturing goo off them before I put them through their paces. I hadn't heard this, I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the heads up You're right about Vredestein using outside designers, I believe it's Giugiaro but would have to check. That said, if a massive design company can help make a tyre as good as the VUS are, I wonder what they could do with the real big guns...? Agree with both of these points, to an extent. My costs for R&D were plucked out of thin air for example, I have no idea if their budgets are actually 10x less/more! You're right though, they will rip each others' tyres apart and study it, but nothing is quite as good as doing the original research yourself. With regards to the extra for branding, again I suspect there's a good element to this as to get market share because of their lesser-known name, the smaller companies will have to reduce the cost of their stuff to make it seem a viable alternative, but I've yet to meet a budget tyre as good as the premium alternative. Rich gets closest to this with the R888/A048 comparison, but having tried both extensively the 048 is still the better tyre by some margin and even more so now Toyo have massively increased their prices on their good tyres (R888 and R1R) over the last couple of years. Possibly this could be more down to them realising they've made a name for themselves in that market now so can afford to bump the prices up to increase revenue? I don't know. Not entirely a fair comparison as the RE040 is now a very old tyre, and it's deliberately priced high because Bridgestone really don't want to have to make it any more: They'd much rather people went to the 050A, but some manufacturers still request it for OEM spec on older cars. This made me chuckle

Hello Nice looking Zed

Halfords do seem to get a good review here:- http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/p ... ested.html I have 2 Halfords professional ones (one low torque one high) and they are very good +1 Halfords stuff is surprisingly good. Someone actually told me teng make them but I cant prove that?

Well nothing of yours Jim I hope you not offering to hold some thing Graham ................

Been waiting all day for these If you need a hand at the club just let me know

If not PM Husky

And like that Rick was hooked!!! Love it Looks like a good day chaps, I hope Rick hasn't worn out mine and Niel's overalls Bob, you are like a kid in a sweet shop

Happy birthday Toby, hope your adequately full of cheer

"I'm thinking of getting a sex change...............what's involved?"

Can't you just get the rear box welded?

So that makes a duplicate an even more heinous crime surely?

+1, excellent Dave, you'll love it, we'll make sure the ladies look after your better half Really great you are joining us Dave The Sunday drive does allow for those who need to leave after lunch or mid-afternoon to get straight on to main A roads out of Wales........ if the need arises.

You're rotten you are Will try and get something uploaded tomorrow Stew once i have found my car! It'll be buried under the pile of white goods in the garage Dave! Was that Dave who hit the washing machine - I remember the pic's! Might as well have a litlle reminder viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16924&hilit=washing+machine

Oh that's who it is, I never did believe all that stuff about a crucifixion, at least it would have been quick this way

Welcome

I think it was the other one, the Cat D Welcome along buddy, Tarmac loved his Zed Anyway, I digress, check out the SE meet next Saturday, some of your new buddies from Bournemouth will be there, so you can meet them, us and RTbiscuit

Had the fronts done on mine last year, rears tomorrow

Plenty in stock and loads cheaper than the stealership How long would i have before its completely gone you reckon and what is recommended to replace it with? thanks

You won't go far wrong with these http://www.bojotoolseurope.com/

And a wonderful person she is too

PM Tim @ Envy Valeting

Linea Corse 19 x10 & 19 x 8.5

Here you go guys, hope this helps:- viewtopic.php?f=35&t=57807