wanted to know for sure if the couple of times that i have had ESp off and cauhgt the back due to a little less grip than expected if it was me catching it or the esp lying like it does in alot of cars these days . Audi and bmw i know for sure lie , push the button and it just relaxes the settings but will still kick in just let you slip a little. to turn them OFF you hold the button , my old 3 series used to come up with all sorts of light on the dash when it was off fully , dads new audi comes up wiht all these !!! and warnings saying its off ... still cant spin the 4wd though !