Chesterfield

We have one of these: Its a flueless fire, they dont require any kind of hole in the wall. They "eat" their own fumes, so only a ventilation brick or some other sort of ventilation required in the room. These are VERY efficient as you do not lose hot air out of the flue. Styles of new contemporary flueless gas fires are becoming a lot more varied, some are a lot cooler than the standard rectangle... Places like B&Q sell them starting at about £500, not the cheapest, but installation is a lot easier, cleaner and quicker than flue/powerflue fires. One thing to note though is that as they spew hot air out of the top, which means placing a mantle or plasma screen etc above the fire is a no no.

The Jam house looks like a nice place. Not to sure about the after party suggestion - the +1's wont be amused.

Birmingham is fairly central, (though for any Scottish members that want to make the journey its a bit south of central) Im sure there will be a decent restaurant and a few bars we could visit. Plenty of nearby acomodation too I would guess?

15th sounds good to me, its a good 6 weeks away to make plans, its not too near christmas (22nd) its not the quiet period between Christmas and new year, and its not the 8th so the boxing fans can make it? Sound good? Can the 15th be the flag in the ground for date?

Nah not counting on his tax contributions at all - more power to him! Id love to be able to cut the tax bill I pay by the same percentage! Good on him. I think Id just like to see him stand up and say thats the reason why, so it makes the taxation system look like the bad apple in all this rather than the press. If they all did it there may be the fain glimmer of hope that they would change the rules which would positively affect the rest of us mere mortals. Then again its probably grasping at straws So would I stay in the country in his position - absolutley not. Id just like the taxman to have the finger pointed at them for once. Maybe its my lovely new tax code and the tax return waiting to be filled in at home thats wound me up. Id just like Lewis to publicly stick it to the HMRC for all of us!

The fact is that he will still be followed by the press wherever he goes, just because of who he is and how he has taken the F1 world by storm, when the next season starts and Hamilton fever is cranked up right from the first race rather than half way through the season, it will just be the same for him. Which is a shame, but not something that I see differing hugely after a move abroad. If he does not like the public attention that comes with being a motor racer, why allow the realease of books about his life and set up other media events aimed squarely at increasing the public interest in him as a person,?? The press will follow him round the globe like they always have, its not as if the British papers are short of a few bob to send a reporter over to Switzerland on easyjet. Im just very dissapointed that either he, or his PR advisors, wont stand up stand up and say the obvious - he is raking in millions and the tax system in the UK makes it unrealistic to expect that kind of earner to stick around when they have the option of moving abroad and undertaking the same role. Whether its partly down to press and partly down to taxation, his reasons are his own, I just object to the public/press interest being used to shoulder the entire "blame" when it is just not the case.

Well he has seriously gone down in my estimations... Saying that he is off to Switzerland because he cant lead a normal life here, and that its because he is left alone in Switzerland - blah blah blah.... If you are moving away from Britain to escape the higher taxes, at least have the brass tacks to tell the truth. Of course its nothing to do with the fact that he may qualify for the single lump sum tax payment which would save him a few million quid on his salary. Im sure the vast majority of the public would be right behind him given half the chance.

No not at all, Ill be in Vegas heading for the kings banquet buffet at Excalibur. Just thought it may be another reason for a big get together with all members past & present.

As before I think the agreement has been that drive outs are Z only but social events such as any christmas bash should be open to everyone ad everyone associated with the site. Would be good to meet up with all the new faces and those who still stick with us even after the Z has gone... If you have any reccomendations for locations and or dates in a central area Liam Im sure they would be appreciated. Perhaps a poll should be set up for date prefferenceand then take it from there? PS.. New years day is actually our birthday too

Absolutely gutted I couldnt make this, looks like another fun day out had by all again. Great work by Beavis and all who helped organise

areas like Colder fuel? The night racing should be good - although depending on lighting it may be tricky TV viewing. Would imagine the track will be lit up like a night golf course though.

If anyone is worried about blending on paintwork (like me) then I advise you to steer well clear of Ultra Yellow. You can almost see a tear in the eye of any painter when you drive up in a 3 coat pearl yellow.

Hi Ian, Welcome aboard always great to see another Z driver join up Hope you enjoy the place

The best way of confirming to make it easily visible is just to put your name in bold on the list - do this by adding [b ] before your name and [/b ] after your name (without the extra spaces).

Removed myself and my +1 as no sign of the Z being ready for the weekend. 1. xStric9x +1 2. lomoto +1.................Sunset 3. Digsy +1 4. beavis......................Ultra Yellow 5. AndyC +1 6. Jacko 7. Stuey 8. jonathan73 +1 9. Red or Zed +1 10. EBIZED +1 11. Littlemiss +1............Ultra Yellow 12. Tilly +1....................Ultra Yellow 13. Squarehead+1 14. Liam's Z 15. Djtimo+1 16. GixxerUK...........not Ultra Yellow 17. Limiter +1

After what happened to the rear of mine on the last meet I wouldnt want to drive someone elses on a meet

Well it needs to be fast, you wouldnt want anyone catching a glimpse of it. In my opinion it is one ugly motor!

My missus was just born to shop. Whether its clothes, house furnishings or houses themselves!

One regular trick is to incorporate a days shopping on the Saturday at the nearby Massive shopping area for the lady folk.

To be fair the winter/late summer meet for wales has always been a lower turnout than the spring/early summer drive. Im sure in time as people star to read the posts and reviews of previous wales drives the turnout will only grow for the Wales run. Sadly it seems likely that myself and Paul will be having to drop out of the drive part, as our Z's are still at the bodyshop and are probably not going to be finished for the weekend. Myself and Tracy will still be there for shoping on the Saturday and the evening drinks and meal (assume there will be some of us). Paul and +1 may be joining us on the Saturday too, but again - the Z is in the shop...

Well - we are going to be another 2 Z's down on the list by the looks of it - bodyshop says that mine wont be done for the weekend, unless its a rush job - which I dont want. Also as Pauls is being sprayed at the same time, then his wont be ready either. Myself and Tracy will still be there for the shopping day on Sat and any evening drinks/meal on the Sat night, but wont be on the drive sadly. Ive tried sticking the Nissan badges on the Seat Altea but it just isnt the same

It may be worth having the dealer monitor the levels and raise this with Nissan then - if enough people do this, then perhaps they may do something about it for those suffering the issue. (before all of us MY06 engine owners run out of warranty)

Indeed - the 300bhp engine has been noted by quite a few to use quite a bit of oil. Mine is not too bad (perhaps 0.25l in 2000 miles). But there are others that have used just as much as yourself and in some circumstanes a lot more. You can ask your dealer to perform a level check on it and monitor the consumption, this can then be raised with Nissan as a warranty issue - I beleive there is at least one owner in the US that has had a replacement engine because of this issue. It would appear that it may be being swept under the carpet here, and the release of the 310bhp engine in a relatively short space of time after the 300bhp engine may well be due to the correcting of this "feature" (and or others). I would suggest you monitor it yourself for a while and if it does not start to drop after the bedding in, you have your dealer monitor it for you and get the mater raised with Nissan.

I feel positively left out. I do tick most of the "dont send me crap through the post" boxes though.

Im sure if Christmas get togethers or other social meets are organised then the team would leave it open to all members on the site - its just the drive out meets that we think should be Z only. There was a Christmas bash thread that started shortly before I went on holliday, did we ever decide a location/date?