goose Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Loving our new Zed - it really is awesome. However, already I seem to have a slight problem.... I keep losing the back end at roundabouts. Now, it has been really wet on the roads recently, but I am guessing it is essentially down to poor driving on my part. Any tips ladies and gents?? Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Are you new to powerful RWD ? If so, some driving training if you want quick results, or back off and and learn by your mistakes, hopefully without having any accidents. If you want driving training I can recommend www.ridedrive.co.uk although there are many others Gus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmmackfc Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Yip, if you are not used to RWD, then it'll be you.... no offence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickya Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Tyres, brand/condition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzzz... Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 As a basic out line ....how i think of it... Think of it as the Rear wheels pushing the front ones... on a straight line the RR push directly the fronts forward... If you power the rear and the car is not on a straight line , they will not directly "push" the front forward, they will try and overtake the front (slide baby...just slide...) works for me anyway... Brake early into a bend. Steady throttle/speed through the corner... no brake or accel to unbalance the car... Do NOT accelerate until you are in a straight line... little by little youn will get the feel of where the acel point can be and what amount you can get away with , but it will take time... 1st lesson... do not acel ( or brake !!!) in a turn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Loving our new Zed - it really is awesome. However, already I seem to have a slight problem.... I keep losing the back end at roundabouts. Now, it has been really wet on the roads recently, but I am guessing it is essentially down to poor driving on my part. Any tips ladies and gents?? Ta It takes a while to adjust... I came into Zed ownwership from a Scoob, with trademark idiot-proof handling My first roundabout induced 360 taught me a lot Being very gentle with the throttle helps - of course you can still get caught out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 ESC on or off or indeed working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Yeah, first RWD car I've had and it was an education to say the least. Really comfortable with it now, but I've had some bowel-emptying slides along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev-the-Rev Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 but I've had some bowel-emptying slides along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan73 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Is there a light on the dash that looks like a car skidding? If so ESP may be off. The 350z without ESP is a lively little toad! It's that little button on the right of the steering wheel that reads "ESP". However, if you've not pranged it yet I bet you've had fun Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Shut up! You're all scaring me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Shut up! You're all scaring me! Give over, Nixy, you'll be fine! Only 24 days to go - are you getting excited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickya Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 As zzz said power on once straight. But when you get used to it (in dry weather) at sharper corners I occasionaly like to turn in oversteer & power out of mid corner with steering in mild opposite direction! Causes lovely tail out controllled mini power slides!! IMO in a FWD car you have to do the traditional gear down;brake;turn in; accelerate out/through corner. If you want to increase speed through corner then brake later & on way out accelerate to the limit where front wheels are almost losing traction & car is hitting apex nose almost sliding out of control but not. This is good but if you do overdo it can come unstuck by losing front end & skiding out nose first. (into kerb etc!) Hence I prefer RWD as there is firstly more fun to be had with tail out slides etc but IMO more importantly there is more margin for error. By taking corners with slight oversteer turn in & you can get out of trouble with a bit extra opposite lock turn out. But more importantly on a tight circuit (private road) where you may have barriers/kerbs, if you dont do above & take a gradual smoother line through the corner while accelerating out (almost like FWD car), you could overdo it & end up sliding/sliping into kerb etc, by losing traction at front. With extra turn in, & car is pointing at more of a sharper angle into corner & waiting till weight is shifted on back of car mid corner, powering down (with slight opp lock)will only cause car to straighten up for corner & will not be sliding towards kerb nose first. However saying all that you could get the opp lock wrong, too much power & end up fishtailing into the kerb if your unlucky!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Shut up! You're all scaring me! Give over, Nixy, you'll be fine! Only 24 days to go - are you getting excited? Yep, 3 weeks on saturday is Z-Day! I'll be without a car for a couple of weeks before then which is my big problem at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 First things is to check that your tyres are ok and that the tracking is good. Bad makes of tyres are just as bad as ones that are worn in my opinion. You don't want to drive a car that is unsafe anyway. My advice on driving is to be smooth with the throttle. Don't just mash it out of the bend, be progressive. Keep your steering movements smooth too, as you take the lock off you can give it more throttle. Getting the balance right is all the fun of having a RWD car. Another thing is to always remember that no matter how much you get used to the car, it is still a powerfull RWD. Giving it alot of throttle out of bends in the WET is certainly going to overload the rears and cause you to slide. I personally, with the amount of oil and rubbish on our roads try to not give it any beans when its wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 may well be the OEM tyres. Not very good in the wet at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzzz... Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 +1 michelin Pilot Sports tyres where my first mod after a couple of weeks using the Zed, and the bridgestones still had more than 4mm.!!! best mod yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 may well be the OEM tyres. Not very good in the wet at all. Forgive my ignorance (still a newbie really! ).... What does OEM stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanx for all your advice. Reckon i need to get meself onto a track day....bit of training might come in handy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 may well be the OEM tyres. Not very good in the wet at all. Forgive my ignorance (still a newbie really! ).... What does OEM stand for? OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer Basically a Nissan part made by Nissan themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 may well be the OEM tyres. Not very good in the wet at all. Forgive my ignorance (still a newbie really! ).... What does OEM stand for? OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer Basically a Nissan part made by Nissan themselves. Nissan don't make Bridgstone tyres though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 OEM is also the term used for equipment originally fitted by the manufacturers. Nissan probably don't make a lot of the parts Sarnie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 OEM is also the term used for equipment originally fitted by the manufacturers. Nissan probably don't make a lot of the parts Sarnie. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 if you are a smooth driver, it shows much more on a rwd car. It's all about not being too on/off/on on the throttle (as well as the above suggestions, which are all good) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl114 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I came from a FWD MGZR and had no problems at all, i think you need to check if your ESP is working for starters as i have done a few tests and everytime in the wet, i have not been able to spin it at all! Secondly, do not over throttle on the corner, once you get used to it, its all drifting action dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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