matth76 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hi Had my new car machine polished a few days ago before picking it up and want to protect it with some good paint sealant to maintain a nice shiny gloss but also give good protection against birds muck etc. Please can anyone recommend a good product and where I can buy it? Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITZ@CougarStore Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is one for our resident expert Stew or Trader Pro Detailers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Who machine polished it - I would have expected them to have sealed it up and given it a good wax too. If they haven't they 'should' have a good idea whats best for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is one for our resident expert Stew or Trader Pro Detailers... Loads of folk on here much better qualified to comment. For ultimate durability Collinite will be a good bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth76 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 It was a nissan main dealer that did the machine polish. I will contact them tomorrow to find out what they actually did afterwards. Found this link - http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/P ... lants.html which product would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/waxes.html Better with this page..... As said, the collinite will offer loads of protection for a little outlay. I also heard the Meguiars one on those pages are ace. Really old forulas that work very well. Never used them though personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth76 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Cheers Stew. What are the paint sealants - can they be used after waxing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Before usually however *some* of them can be layered with wax...... I couldn't commit to what works with what though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Try Chemical Guys Jetseal 109,I use it on my alloys but it's equally as good on paint.You could also try one of the various spray sealants that are available.I tend to seal after I have waxed with Zaino Z8 which is very easy to apply. As Stew said a good wax after the polishing should protect the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Valeting Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Was it a detailer that machined your car? If so they should have prepped and waxed the paintwork after they've corrected it. What colour is your car and I will recommend some prodcust for you to buy to maintain it correctly. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Was it a detailer that machined your car? If so they should have prepped and waxed the paintwork after they've corrected it. What colour is your car and I will recommend some prodcust for you to buy to maintain it correctly. Paul As they said the dealer, I would expect it was not a detailer but a body shop tech that did it. My personal recommendations for sealant (not inc the ones above, they are good too) is Autoglym (AG) Extra Gloss Protection (EGP). Doddle to apply and lasts quite a while. Make sure you leave it on overnight in the garage if you can. Also do a couple of layers. For wax, anything in the Dodo range. Paul will tell you which suits your car, or Matt of i4detailing is a good lad, he'll point you in the right direction. We get a discount at i4d too I have Dodo Supernatural, and its f'in brilliant! Bit expensive mind. Oh and I would recommend you use something like Dodo Lime Prime to get rid of any nasties from the paint as machine polishing wont get rid of everything. Will give you a glossy shine to work with the sealant and wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth76 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Thanks. Do you apply the sealant then the wax last, or apply sealant last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 You can layer most sealants and waxes so it shouldn't matter. I'd put sealant down then wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMS14 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sealant, then polish then Wax. If you're looking for the ultimate in shine I would recomend anything in the Dodo Juice range. I've tried most products over the years but nothing comes close to the results I've had with these products. try a company called "The Ultimate Finish", They will advise you on the specifics for your car. Dodo do a range of waxes suitable for differing colours. If you want to check out the results look for The Damson Datsun on the Sxoc stand at Japfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sealant, then polish then Wax. Why? Is it not better to prepare and polish the paint then run sealant then top it off with wax? Why seal then polish? I don't get it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMS14 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 The sealant does what it says on the tin. It seals the paint and it's neutral in it's chemical make up. Some polishes and waxes can react with some types of paint. Particularly if the car has any SMART repairs. The sealant prevents this from happening. You then polish and wax effectively on top of this protective coating, et Voila! A lovely shiney Car. If you want to know more about techniques have a look on the site www.detailingworld.co.uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Different Technique to me.... I cleanse the paint then machine polish the clear coat. Then seal in my handywork (no swirls) and then wax for protection. I get a nice finish. It works for me. I still don't get why you'd seal before polishing as the polish will cut through the sealant I'd have thought therefore wasting the product and perhaps making the polish less effective..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMS14 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 A good polish should only have a minimal cutting compound content. Better still none at all. After all it's not really for restorative treatments. Thus if you use a good one it will not Cut through the sealant. It will however help build up the Depth on top of the paint thus filling in any swirls and allowing a greater sheen with the Wax coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I'm sorry but thats completely wrong IMO. The whole point of a polish is to be a cutting compound. How they do this is either with a mechanical cutter (abrasive) or using chemicals. The idea is to prep the paint work (in most cases a clear coat) and remove any iregularties so that it is ready for LSPs such as sealants and waxes which protect your nice revitialised paint. Many polishes will contain very little cut and things like silicone to fill the swirls that are left, which is good for amateurs and enthusiasts (I use AG SRP on my car and it was machine polished a few months back but I didnt get 100% correction due to thin paint so this helps hide whats left), but true polish will not contain this instead having varying levels of cut (such as PB SSR range). Can I ask where you got the information from with regards sealing the paint before polishing? I have been a detailling enthusiast for more years than I care to remember and have never heard this approach before, and from the many writeups on here and DW, I cant ever see it being used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 You polish, then seal, then wax. End of. There is no need to polish after you have applied sealant, what does it achieve?? Sealeant products? Chemical Guys jetSEAL 109 is a great product, check Detailing World for the number of people who swear by it, professional and amateur alike. Then wax on top gives a nice finish. Collinite is a similar thing by make sure it's their hardest wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 My personal recommendations for sealant (not inc the ones above, they are good too) is Autoglym (AG) Extra Gloss Protection (EGP). Doddle to apply and lasts quite a while. Make sure you leave it on overnight in the garage if you can. By this do you mean actually leaving the applied coat of sealant overnight before buffing it off? I thought you were meant to leave it for only a few minutes before buffing off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 My personal recommendations for sealant (not inc the ones above, they are good too) is Autoglym (AG) Extra Gloss Protection (EGP). Doddle to apply and lasts quite a while. Make sure you leave it on overnight in the garage if you can. By this do you mean actually leaving the applied coat of sealant overnight before buffing it off? I thought you were meant to leave it for only a few minutes before buffing off. Yes, apply and leave overnight if possible. AG now say not to leave it long, but do a bit of searching on Detailing World and you will find the truth. Apparently AG use to say to leave it on for about 12hrs to fully cure and bond to the paint, but as not many people can do that they didnt sell a lot. So now they say to just leave it for an hour or as long as possible. Best results are to be had if you can leave it overnight in a garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernmc Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Zaino. http://www.advancedcarproducts.com/prod ... rod=004ZCS Best stuff I've used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMS14 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Well my advice on Detailing cars comes from a very good friend of mine who details exotics for a living. You don't charge £1000 a time and get flown around the world to prep cars for such events as The Pebble Beach concours without some degree of knowledge. Maybe your idea of sealant and polish differ from what is truly the case. I hope this helps you in your endevours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I am with you on that bud, Zaino os fantastic. Its not the quickest operation but well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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