scobie140 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Realised today that I've still not put oil in the supercharger or the engine for that matter yet. So thought i'd have a quick look to see how easy its going to be for access to fill. Popped out the breather cap and had a peek in to see something on the threads. Stuck the small magnetic screw driver down to find a few bits of old bearing i'm guessing. Initially I though "ahh f*ck" as it was sent away for overhaul prior to purchase, but thinking about it there is no need to remove a breather plug as part of an overhaul so it could easily have just been missed on the clean up. Just for peace of mind though I'd like to give it a good flush through since I've now disturbed it. Does anyone know the spec of the vortech oil so i can buy some cheap similar spec stuff for flushing? Then after wards i can flush through with the correct stuff and then do the final fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Do you have any of the Vortech oil and if so does it say on the bottle? If not maybe try asking one of the traders who sell the Vortech oil like Adrian@Torqen or one of the members like ChrisB who still have their supercharged Zeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Do you have any of the Vortech oil and if so does it say on the bottle? If not maybe try asking one of the traders who sell the Vortech oil like Adrian@Torqen or one of the members like ChrisB who still have their supercharged Zeds. Not yet going to order some from Torqen later this evening, Yeh was hoping someone had one lying about and could maybe shed some light on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Try ChrisB then to see if he can help. Link: http://www.350z-uk.c...a-supercharger/ He's a good guy and I'm sure he'll have a bottle or two laying around. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Try ChrisB then to see if he can help. Link: http://www.350z-uk.c...a-supercharger/ He's a good guy and I'm sure he'll have a bottle or two laying around. Good luck. Ill drop him a message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Gidday - sorry I'm on holiday today - was out cleaning the Zed of all things Here is what is printed on the bottle if this is any help.. Can't see too many specs in that - but maybe the paxton/vortech website has a bit more info? p/n 009035. Christ ..what happened to photo bucket and the ads that won't un-pop? Took 4 attempts to get those links 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The Mercedes Kompressor oil is a very similar spec and should be fine for flushing through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Cheers Chris, I suspect that its nothing special but they keep it a mystery and claim terrible things of any other oils as it give them a steady income from customers. I'll keep digging. RichF I'll have a look at some of that and see what I can dig up. Worse case scenario I'll use a oil we use at work in the gear box's of sundyne pumps as that oil services the bearings, and gears at very high speeds very similar to the supercharger so should be of similar spec due to similar duties. But i'd like to try and do it right and remove the element of the unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Let us know what you find out chris. I usually flush it through with new supercharger oil but it's not the best cost wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 The Mercedes Kompressor oil is a very similar spec and should be fine for flushing through Mobil Jet Oil II seems to be what the merc guys use or a general motors part number 12345982. Emailed vortech but not hopeful of a helpful response as they will just want you to buy their oil I'd think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 In for answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 The Mercedes Kompressor oil is a very similar spec and should be fine for flushing through Mobil Jet Oil II seems to be what the merc guys use or a general motors part number 12345982. Emailed vortech but not hopeful of a helpful response as they will just want you to buy their oil I'd think Yeah you wont get any help from them The Merc stuff is pretty close, I spoke to a few places when I had mine and they suggested it , there is no way Vortech make it it must be branded and rebottled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'll email Frank@Vortech now and get you an answer hopefully by the end of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Edit: Read the label on the Oil bottle above. Using a different oil even for flushing will void any existing warranty, in case that applies to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 As promised, Vortech says: "We do not recommend using any other oil in our units, only our V3 oil. If you mix our oil with another type it could cause issues." Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 The Mercedes Kompressor oil is a very similar spec and should be fine for flushing through Mobil Jet Oil II seems to be what the merc guys use or a general motors part number 12345982. Emailed vortech but not hopeful of a helpful response as they will just want you to buy their oil I'd think Yeah you wont get any help from them The Merc stuff is pretty close, I spoke to a few places when I had mine and they suggested it , there is no way Vortech make it it must be branded and rebottled Yeh its nothing special as its just a couple of high speed bearings and two gears they just want to make you go through them for it so they get more money. Surprisingly they have still not replied to my email. Is the merc stuff you are on about the General motors one? Edit: Read the label on the Oil bottle above. Using a different oil even for flushing will void any existing warranty, in case that applies to you. Nah thats not an issue for me. As promised, Vortech says: "We do not recommend using any other oil in our units, only our V3 oil. If you mix our oil with another type it could cause issues." Hope this helps. Knew that would be their answer totally unhelpful unless you are purchasing from them. At least you got a reply. Cheers for trying to help Reminds me i'll need to order a pack from yous for stock and a final flush as I only have one bottle just now. Don't suppose they supplied you with a material safety data sheet since you will be keeping it in storage? not sure if that would have anything on it that helps, I can't remember the last time I read one in any detail, Just glance at the PPE icons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Oil arrived from Torqen today but i'm still no further forward with finding out any specs of it. I'll keep digging and see what i can come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Well according to a post on an american forum its Royal Purple synthetic ATF re-branded as their own http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78201 If I can't find any more info I'll buy a bottle of that and try to compare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Well according to a post on an american forum its Royal Purple synthetic ATF re-branded as their own http://www.s197forum...ead.php?t=78201 If I can't find any more info I'll buy a bottle of that and try to compare them. Its red though not purple ? Maybe its only the engine oil thats purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 Been away at Aberdeen training for a week but come home to some Royal purple. Without getting a lab to chemically analyse it I'd say i'm about 95% sure both are the same or very similar. Both are identical colour & viscosity seems the same. They both smell the same but the vortec oil had a slightly stronger smell but there wasn't much in it. Tried to get the pics as best i could but lighting was a bit off From what I've seen i'm more than happy to take the chance and use the Royal purple as a flushing fluid. I will still use the vortec oil to run with but will use the royal purple each change to give a good flush as it was only £16 for 1 liter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Link for where you got it? Think this is a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 Link for where you got it? Think this is a great idea. Was just from ebay, on my phone just now but I'll try and get the link later Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobie140 Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231803760275?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Sorry its £21 odd by the time you add postage but still alot cheaper than the vortec stuff especially to use as a flushing oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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