Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I've just unwrapped and offered these parts up to the car (rear spoiler and rear bumper) and they don't fit, I understand obviously that fettling is usually required but is this a bit much? Or is it the bodyshops fault saying that they are unable to do the task? Spoiler; Rear bumper; Thanks guys, Olly Edited September 19, 2016 by Ollydykins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Were they made by a blind one armed ferret on work experience on a Friday afternoon? That's utterly shocking. Send 'em back and ask for either parts that have half a chance at fitting, or a refund. A little bit of massaging isn't out of the question, but those parts aren't even in the same postcode as the car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Or is it the bodyshops fault saying that they are unable to do the task? Thanks guys, Olly Hi Olly, from the photos posted looks like APM is the "bodyshop" you're mentioning. Looking at their website here: http://apmcustoms.co.uk doesn't look like they are a bodyshop / specialist place, but a car wrapping place? A bodyshop shouldn't have trouble making replica body kits / parts like the ones in the photos fit perfectly. Did the seller say they are straight fit out of the box or some work / preparation is required? If they did say it will be a straight fit, then speak to the seller and ask for replacement or refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Oh mate you didn't end up going for that ebay crap you were looking at did you! I told you to speak to Tarmacsports. Unless your bodyshop has the sculpturing craft of Michaelangelo I'd be inclined to agree with them. That ain't happening. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Or is it the bodyshops fault saying that they are unable to do the task? Thanks guys, Olly Hi Olly, from the photos posted looks like APM is the "bodyshop" you're mentioning. Looking at their website here: http://apmcustoms.co.uk doesn't look like they are a bodyshop / specialist place, but a car wrapping place? A bodyshop shouldn't have trouble making replica body kits / parts like the ones in the photos fit perfectly. Did the seller say they are straight fit out of the box or some work / preparation is required? If they did say it will be a straight fit, then speak to the seller and ask for replacement or refund. I had someone else come out who runs a body shop to see whether he would take on the job, not apm, that's just where my car is getting wrapped and the parts were getting fitted (the simple ones). The person from the body shop didn't want to touch it, he said it has been an old mould so the part over years has just gotten smaller and smaller. I am just posting in here asking for opinions before anything else proceeds, I understand that fettling is always going to be required, but wondering where the line is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valy Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 ouch ...I am sure it can be sorted but at a cost...if I were you I will try and replace them ... not worth going ahead as it will cost you a bit to get them to fit and you probably wont be happy with the end result 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Got it, I thought APM is the bodyshop, hence why I've asked. Looking at this photo: it appears that the bumper is moved / push to the left as you look from the rear, hence why it's creating a bit of a gap? Has it been adjusted properly when they've taken the photos? Same for the rear spoiler, to me it looks like it hasn't been arranged where it should actually be, a little bit lower? Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, sorry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Got it, I thought APM is the bodyshop, hence why I've asked. Looking at this photo: it appears that the bumper is moved / push to the left as you look from the rear, hence why it's creating a bit of a gap? Has it been adjusted properly when they've taken the photos? Same for the rear spoiler, to me it looks like it hasn't been arranged where it should actually be, a little bit lower? Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, sorry! The spoiler actually has a complete bow in it which doesn't match the cars shape, which would have been fine if the base of it was solid because we could just fettle it to suit, but it's hollow so we can't even take anything more, and with the bumper, we've tried it both ways, which-ever way we get flush with the rear-quarters panel, the other side is miles off, we tried every angle without putting too much pressure on it thankyou though! Olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Looks a shocker mate, get your money back, pay a bit more for something decent otherwise it will cost you a bomb to even try and get it to fit. Whats with the crack? Was that there when it arrived? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Looks a shocker mate, get your money back, pay a bit more for something decent otherwise it will cost you a bomb to even try and get it to fit. Whats with the crack? Was that there when it arrived? Yeah the crack was there on delivery Olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Be careful with that, you should have rejected it when you received, they could actually start playing silly buggars saying you did it and not take a refund...just a watch out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Were they made by a blind one armed ferret on work experience on a Friday afternoon? That's utterly shocking. Send 'em back and ask for either parts that have half a chance at fitting, or a refund. A little bit of massaging isn't out of the question, but those parts aren't even in the same postcode as the car. +1 - guess you get what you pay for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopedmark Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Was the bumper Acctually fitted and put back on the runners and bolted up, or just held into space ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Was the bumper Acctually fitted and put back on the runners and bolted up, or just held into space ? We couldn't even hold it into the space, this is the best we got it. Olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Were they made by a blind one armed ferret on work experience on a Friday afternoon? That's utterly shocking. Send 'em back and ask for either parts that have half a chance at fitting, or a refund. A little bit of massaging isn't out of the question, but those parts aren't even in the same postcode as the car. +1 - guess you get what you pay for? They were bought from a forum trader so I assumed they would be of at least a reasonable quality. It wasn't just a cheap buy either, I did spend quite a few bob! Edited September 19, 2016 by Ollydykins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erni902 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The genuine Chargespeed Type 2 rear bumper alone is $1k plus shipping and import tax etc. For that price it is bang on with a perfect fit. So IMO unless you spend even close to this then you are going to need to make modifications, By the time you are done you could have spent close to the price of the genuine one. Not sure on the price of the wing but the principal is the same. You do get what you pay for with any kind of body work whether its body panels/parts or paintwork. Hopefully you can either get your money back for the inferior parts or get it to sit poperly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 The genuine Chargespeed Type 2 rear bumper alone is $1k plus shipping and import tax etc. For that price it is bang on with a perfect fit. So IMO unless you spend even close to this then you are going to need to make modifications, By the time you are done you could have spent close to the price of the genuine one. Not sure on the price of the wing but the principal is the same. You do get what you pay for with any kind of body work whether its body panels/parts or paintwork. Hopefully you can either get your money back for the inferior parts or get it to sit poperly Yes I understand the price of the genuine, which is sooo annoying as I've wanted this bumper ever since I can remember. I do understand that everything will need fitting/fettling/filling, as you said it's not a genuine fit. But I'm only after an opinion whether this is the parts at fault, or whether it's the bodyshops that won't take it on. Thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modo Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 O that's a bummer ask for a refund, if he's a forum trader, then talk to him, he cant be that bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 O that's a bummer ask for a refund, if he's a forum trader, then talk to him, he cant be that bad. +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erni902 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Sorry mate, didn't mean that comment to sound snobby or anything. Before I got my Zed I was looking at kits and the Chargespeed type 2 was the one I wanted. The entire kit is over $2.5k plus shipping and import duty and tax etc so trust me if mine didnt have it on already I wouldnt have paid that amount and wouldve gone for cheaper copies and I would now be in the same position as you. I believe it is the parts at fault but I also know one or 2 bodyshops that will fit anything to anything and do it happily and to a fantastic standard. They do of course take their time over it to make sure anything looks as factory as possible including the paint finish. This of course costs alot more than just banging it on and whacking some paint on as you are paying for their time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 jesus thats some bad fitment even my drift bumpers fit better than that. That needs to go straight back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Sorry mate, didn't mean that comment to sound snobby or anything. Before I got my Zed I was looking at kits and the Chargespeed type 2 was the one I wanted. The entire kit is over $2.5k plus shipping and import duty and tax etc so trust me if mine didnt have it on already I wouldnt have paid that amount and wouldve gone for cheaper copies and I would now be in the same position as you. I believe it is the parts at fault but I also know one or 2 bodyshops that will fit anything to anything and do it happily and to a fantastic standard. They do of course take their time over it to make sure anything looks as factory as possible including the paint finish. This of course costs alot more than just banging it on and whacking some paint on as you are paying for their time. I also have to apologise for sounding so defensive, I was a bit grumpy and upset about it all yesterday as it's getting wrapped without them . But yeah I understand, I took the plunge, and it came back and bit me. Olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollydykins Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 jesus thats some bad fitment even my drift bumpers fit better than that. That needs to go straight back Thanks Olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 All I say, is if the trader is being difficult, get the mods involved, it's what they're here for. Those look like Stevie Wonder made them with his feet, you'd need shares in bodyfiller and fibreglass to make those fit properly. Occasionally body parts do come out warped or with imperfections, you'd just hope that the seller would have a test rig to throw the parts on to. I did wonder if it was another Knight Racer special, but they're not a trader on here, so I guess not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 OK thanks for the opinions all I think the consensus is clear. I would say Olly has what he needs to continue the conversation with the trader and hopefully come to a resolution that is satisfactory for both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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