^ yeah absolutely agree. Much like the DC2 type r, S2000 all the power at top so have to bury the throttle to em going which would get tiresome. I love the Z she'll go from any rpm with ease, 20mph in 4th with no need to drop down a gear or two. I can imagine the turbo gen M3/M4 was a huge jump in all round performance and economy, of course a lesser sound.