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Irrelevant. What if the next player to score 1000 club goals in the champions league is from Fiji, they wont win a trophy but you wouldn't say they are the best player. ...and Ronaldo didn't play most of the game, and one game aside in the tournament was ineffective.

Oh my god. Football did not win tonight, the eyesore that is Portugal who played for penalties from the first minute fluke a winner. That said, Didier putting on Gignac AGAIN when he is clearly not international class, Corman again who is not international class either. Some utterly shocking French subs.

Definitely a penalty, you cant lead with your hands up above your head if defending a cross. If you watch before he even got near the player he was waving his hands deliberately up there realising he had lost his man. Penalty all day and a great decision.

Great game, Germany with all the possession well and truly had a number done on them. Not often you say Low made a squad selection error but lack of strikers in the squad hurt them tonight with Gomez out injured.

Yes if I could take one thing out the game its the abuse and disrespect that players give to the players. It is right there for all to see at every game absolutely disgusting language - every time a linesman makes a call the player is gesticulating at them. And how many times the player is wrong...

I played rugby at school, have to say its fun playing (as a winger) but I find it dull as dishwater watching. You can pretty much predict the winner of any match at international level except when maybe NZ play Australia, and outside the top 4 or 5 countries there is so little competition internationally. What I love about football is that its worth cheering for the underdog because there is a chance they can spring a win football does leave it very much open for a shock result moreso than rugby. I also find things like scrums and line outs just kill time in rugby, on average the ball is live and in play in rugby for something like 30 minutes out of 80. Football is much higher. I agree though football players 'playing' for the decision came about because if they don't the ref doesn't give it. The amount of shirt pulling on the refs blindside is getting so out of hand, if you don't go down you won't get the decision. Blatant out and out play acting should result in a one match ban. Some of it is so obvious it a joke.

Refs are so inconsistent its ridiculous. But having been mates with a guy that got close to reffing premier league you wouldn't believe the sh*t they get from managers and the like as well as the FA telling them to do this and do that. The Refs association is the poor man of the game and are pretty much bullied week in week out. How often do we see players effing off at officials but they have been told they cannot send off a player for it, yet do it on a pitch over the park on a sunday morning its instant red card.

We all know that the tough rugby players go home and cry like girls when they lose, they just pretend to be tough and unaffected by it on camera

If you don't watch football then you won't understand the game that was played out. Mentally neither team wanted to lose, both were under committing in attack which led to a deadlock - it really was just a super-human header from Ronaldo that swung the game, how he got that high and hung there, freakish. Often tight games like that that its a case of being the team less likely to make a mistake or the one with the moment of brilliance that wins. This is often the case in tournament matches where one goal can mean tournament exit, as Dan said, the occasion got to them and they couldn't climb out of that defensive shell. Fingers crossed for France tonight, such an exciting team to watch, would love to see them win their home tournament.

Well out go Wales - I know Bale said they were proud (no less than 9 times I think in that interview!) but I was actually disappointed that against probably one of the weaker teams they barely got a clean shot on goal. I think they got found out a bit and seemed to go out without really trying to find a plan B (sounds like England!) to break down the Portuguese team. Still they exceeded expectations, so will get a rousing reception back home.

If you want to use detailing spray just buy the concentrate plus use an old spray bottle and dilute to what you need, lasts ages.

...a new sticker in the rear driver side window?

Yeah that was my first thought as well about bikes, bit of a joke really.

Petition outcome... In the interests of road safety and to support law enforcement, the Government will not be changing the legal requirement for vehicles to display front and back number plates. UK legislation specifies the position at which number plates must be displayed on a vehicle. The main purpose of number plates is to make vehicles readily identifiable for the purpose of law enforcement, road safety and the collection of vehicle excise duty. In addition, members of the public who report incidents to the police are often aided by the presence of both front and rear number plates Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) is widely used by the police and others for the purpose of detection and prevention of crime and to support road safety. ANPR is critically dependent upon the presence of clear and readable number plates on vehicles. In the interests of road safety and law enforcement the Government will not be changing the legislative requirement for vehicles to display front number plates. Department for Transport

What in gods name. People are just going mental nowadays. I blame brexit. Should have been banned in all honesty.

Lotus Evora for a little bit of fun?

But an Aston...you gotta own an Aston at some point...

But its an Aston...mmmmm Aston. You can put a suit on and be James Bond.

You need to wash the mitt in warm soapy water. Old clay bar won't scratch if you fold it and expose a clean area. Clearly once you have used it enough you will never get a clean face on it no matter how much folding. The clay mitts are good for 30 cars by all accounts before you should ditch it.

Aston Martin, V8, Supercharged!

Yeah thought you might have to pull the plug on this. Such a shame its a beautiful looking car.

Invest in a Megs/Autoglym/Bilt Hamber bar and you should be fine. That said, I bought a clay mitt recently and its every bit as good as a bar but x10 faster to do the work.

Went on my stag do to Cork....it was sensationally good

Very odd thread! Ultimately you should buy what you can afford to run. If saving £50 year by having a box plugged in is a big deal, when it costs £90+ just to fill the car up, I really don't think its a big saving at all, just don't put your foot down for a few weeks (like you cant with the box attached) and keep your mpg high and job done. I think performance cars are gotten just a little bit too easily nowadays and many younger drivers crash them due to lack of driving experience, but hey maybe thats the old cynical guy in me coming out. And as Dan said above, insurance is not something you try to trick or get around, its about putting forwards an honest assessment of your car ownership. If this second driver never gets in the car, you are committing fraud.

Thats kind of my point though, that comparing Clarkson to Evans in the same light was not really comparable in the first instance - the acts are not really the same and the way they happened is not the same.