Is it a easy swop to put a hr engine in a de ?

[Briggsybriggs1]

Hi as some might no iv got a 2006 up rev what likes drinking oil and am in 2 minds on selling it or sorting it out and just being looking at second hand engine so do I fit like for like or fit a newer HR in its place.

[ZMANALEX]

If you are planning on keeping the car then fit an HR if you can source a complete known unit including all ancillaries including throttle bodies and air filter housings, wiring looms, ECU, radiator and gearbox. etc.etc.etc.

You will also require a bespoke wiring loom which I believe Abbey have.

 

 

Alex.

[Briggsybriggs1]

Thanks so it's not just as easy as I thought . Then .

 

 

 

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[ZMANALEX]

It is relatively easy, however it is time consuming and not a cheap option.

 

If you are selling, then best to sell as is.

 

Most of the rev up engines drink oil which is a well documented fact.

 

Alex.

[Briggsybriggs1]

Thanks for your advice Alex .Defo not doing that swop anymore the cost would be to higher when I could just get a newer car :-) . Just booked car in for a £42 service and will record the oil used over 1000miles just for peace off mind.

 

 

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[Neilp]

I wouldn't bother with a service that cheap. Very rarely you will even see the correct oil for that price alone. I imagine they will be using budge stuff and this is probs not good for the car

[hensh65]

After getting the engine in you will have to get another bonnet as the DE wont house the enginer as it is taller trade it in on an HR, or just buy oil in bulk

[cs2000]

Try chucking some Seafoam through the car. may help, may not, but my old Celica was on 140,000 miles using 1-2 ltrs /1000 miles for about 6 months. One treatment of Seafoam and im sure it stopped.

 

Probably just some gunk was sat somewhere meaning the piston rings couldn't seal properly.

[Briggsybriggs1]

The service is at national tyres using 5w30 fully synthetic Fuchs or castrol that's a good price

 

 

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[Briggsybriggs1]

Will give that a seal stuff a go but cars only done 48k think it just likes drinking it lol

 

 

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[Flex]

Try chucking some Seafoam through the car. may help, may not, but my old Celica was on 140,000 miles using 1-2 ltrs /1000 miles for about 6 months. One treatment of Seafoam and im sure it stopped.

 

Probably just some gunk was sat somewhere meaning the piston rings couldn't seal properly.

 

I remember a post on this a while ago, cant remember if anyone tried it. I take it you do it when you've dropped the oil out?

[350zedd]

Really glad I joined this forum before I bought a Zed because of threads like this!

I'm hanging on for the right 07 HR to come along

[Briggsybriggs1]

Not no when u put it if think the problems with in the long block off the engine . Yep wish I would off joined this before I got one but still love my z

 

 

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[docwra]

The service is at national tyres using 5w30 fully synthetic Fuchs or castrol that's a good price

 

Thats not a good price, thats an impossible price - an oil filter trade is about £10, the oil itself is £30 ........ so no labour and definitely not checking anything else ..........

[Flex]

The service is at national tyres using 5w30 fully synthetic Fuchs or castrol that's a good price

 

Thats not a good price, thats an impossible price - an oil filter trade is about £10, the oil itself is £30 ........ so no labour and definitely not checking anything else ..........

 

Or perhaps they just charge labour and dont change owt?

[AliveBoy]

The service is at national tyres using 5w30 fully synthetic Fuchs or castrol that's a good price

 

Thats not a good price, thats an impossible price - an oil filter trade is about £10, the oil itself is £30 ........ so no labour and definitely not checking anything else ..........

 

Or perhaps they just charge labour and dont change owt?

 

Or they make a small loss on the oil change and make profit when they convince a paranoid owner that his 6 new tyres are 100% needed along with those new brake pads front and rear along with disks, fluid and the new flux capacitor you also really really need.

[350 Russ]

I just paid £52 for 5l Fuchs 5w-30 and £20 for an oil filter. I'm going to do it myself so that's a cracking price aslong as they are actually using proper oil and not blue stripe

[WhackyWill]

Thanks for your advice Alex .Defo not doing that swop anymore the cost would be to higher when I could just get a newer car :-) . Just booked car in for a £42 service and will record the oil used over 1000miles just for peace off mind.

 

 

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Think they might have left a one off before the £42 making it £142 - 00, you cannot even do it yourself for £42 - 00 ... :scare:

[Briggsybriggs1]

Well the web site says so And iv pre payed . So will see plus filled in form on web site and got £10 off my next visit :-) and they might find stuff wrong when doing it or looking for work on it but that's all they will be doing looking

 

 

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[AliveBoy]

Well the web site says so And iv pre payed . So will see plus filled in form on web site and got £10 off my next visit :-) and they might find stuff wrong when doing it or looking for work on it but that's all they will be doing looking

 

 

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Let us know how it goes

[docwra]

Aye, it sounds a bit like the old Halfords MoT where they discover your car is a rolling deathtrap that can only be fixed by them ............ good luck though, keep us informed

[Briggsybriggs1]

Yep will do :-) I'm a mechanical engineer so they have to be good blaggers to pull the wool over my eyes lol

 

 

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[Briggsybriggs1]

Well got to the garage and service was bang on they pointed out that the in side off the back tyers were worn out witch I new and priced up £280 fitted for Avon so will probably be back next week for them done if I cAnt get any cheaper

 

 

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[planetsurfer2]

Having been (possibly the only one) through the experience of fitting an HR engine and gearbox in a revup Z, I wouldn't recommend it.It's a very expensive way of getting an engine fixed. I could send you the list of parts required and the costs if you want.

Abbey Motorsport did the work, which I was very happy with. They installed a GTM twin turbo kit for me as well.

The wiring loom was a pain in the A*** to make. If you need any more info let me know.

[Briggsybriggs1]

Having been (possibly the only one) through the experience of fitting an HR engine and gearbox in a revup Z, I wouldn't recommend it.It's a very expensive way of getting an engine fixed. I could send you the list of parts required and the costs if you want.

Abbey Motorsport did the work, which I was very happy with. They installed a GTM twin turbo kit for me as well.

The wiring loom was a pain in the A*** to make. If you need any more info let me know.

 

Your car sounds like it would be fun to drive :-) and Thanks for that but am thinking the cost out ways what I would end up with in the end . Might save up for a newer one instead

 

 

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