zippypooz Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Has anyone heard of Black Code Remapping? Been on their website and was wondering if anyone knows anything about them or has had work done on their Zed by this company!!...and if so, did it work!! Thanks all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 99.99% they can't remap the zed. Only 3 companies have uprev to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 99.99% they can't remap the zed. Only 4 companies have uprev to do it. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 oh!! why is that!!?? im curious now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The oem software cannot be remapped. The uprev tuning software is added to the ecu and allows for oem tuning on a dyno. 3 places can do it. Depends how far you want to travel and where you are located. Leeds, London, Horsham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 The oem software cannot be remapped. The uprev tuning software is added to the ecu and allows for oem tuning on a dyno. 3 places can do it. Depends how far you want to travel and where you are located. Leeds, London, Horsham Oh i see!! Well Horsham is only down the road!! What sort of improvement can you expect to get? and is it safe!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Jezz Horsham developments is in Newbury I think otherwise I would have been up there long ago. Ben @ AMD do it and they are in Essex and they were my 1st choice. Not sure why I did not go there really. Soon there will be one at Brands Hatch which will be great stuff. The more the merrier and all that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 The oem software cannot be remapped. The uprev tuning software is added to the ecu and allows for oem tuning on a dyno. 3 places can do it. Depends how far you want to travel and where you are located. Leeds, London, Horsham Hmmm ive just been on the phone to Black code and they say they can do it...not via oem software though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The oem software cannot be remapped. The uprev tuning software is added to the ecu and allows for oem tuning on a dyno. 3 places can do it. Depends how far you want to travel and where you are located. Leeds, London, Horsham Hmmm ive just been on the phone to Black code and they say they can do it...not via oem software though. find out what software please as this is new to all members on here. Throughout the world uprev tuning is used or a new aftermarket ecu is fitted. You wont get much gains to be honest without supporting mods. Even then you probably barely break the oem figures on most cars except the later HR engined cars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 The oem software cannot be remapped. The uprev tuning software is added to the ecu and allows for oem tuning on a dyno. 3 places can do it. Depends how far you want to travel and where you are located. Leeds, London, Horsham Hmmm ive just been on the phone to Black code and they say they can do it...not via oem software though. find out what software please as this is new to all members on here. Throughout the world uprev tuning is used or a new aftermarket ecu is fitted. You wont get much gains to be honest without supporting mods. Even then you probably barely break the oem figures on most cars except the later HR engined cars Yeah i will. Basically (very basically!!) they either come to your property or to where the car is and download the data from the ecu, send it back to head office where they then download it and remap it. Its then sent back and reinstalled into the ecu. A friend had it done last week on his top end merc. The ecu on the merc has some sort of anti tamper program (as does the Z apparently), they bypassed this and updated his ecu. Took about 2 hours. I asked what difference it made and he said a few things, quicker throttle response, more low down torque, very slight improvement 0-60 and better fuel consumption. Although he said he hadnt noticed any difference on the fuel side of things as yet. Funny enough, the guy i spoke to was an ex nissan guy and knew all about the Zs. I asked about the obvious stuff ie 0-60 times and he said there would be a slight improvement but it was more aiding response through the gears, torque and low down grunt that benefitted most. Interesting. Now im no high end mechanic so im only relaying what i was told by my friend and by the technician...but it sounds interesting to me!!...so far!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Run away Use Abbey MS for UpRev remap, but sort out few breathing mods first: plenum spacer, pop-charger, HFC, exhaust, etc Alternatively, Jez @ Horsham or Dan @ AME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I would never ever let someone map a car on a driveway. The engine has to be tuned on a dyno to ensure safe running. Doesn't matter if its a high end merc or a skoda, I wouldn't trust some one mapping on a driveway as they are unable to check the car and to accurately know how much power it's gained etc. The fact is the ecu can only be remapped successfully using up uprev tuning. Don't waste your time with anybody else except the tuning companys on hereS Listen to what all the experienced owners know on here. It's good advice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Run away Use Abbey MS for UpRev remap, but sort out few breathing mods first: plenum spacer, pop-charger, HFC, exhaust, etc Alternatively, Jez @ Horsham or Dan @ AME does Dan do uprev now? Dont forget RS tuning in Leeds are an option also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The oem software cannot be remapped. The uprev tuning software is added to the ecu and allows for oem tuning on a dyno. 4 places can do it. Depends how far you want to travel and where you are located. Leeds, London, Horsham as corrected above, not heard anyone on here that has been uprev'd yet by TDi, but they do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ok, thanks for the advice, im presuming i can post their website?? as i think its worth investigating and informing people???? either way id like some opinions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 post away! I think you may struggle to find anyone who has had the standard ecu remapped with anything other than uprev. Try asking on the US 350z forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Ok, ask yourself these questions, do you want some kind of button pusher working on your car? If so I presume they send these guys out to work on ANY car, that implies that the button pusher knows exactly what he is doing doing on EVERY car. And they can achieve this working on your drive way with out a dyno? Does this sound too good to be true? How much do you love your Zed, oh and here's the Smurf Cynical question, how do you actually know they change anything if there are no before and after dyno tests that will set benchmarks as reference points? As others have said, it's a pointless exercise without the supporting breathing mods. Please walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisS Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 oh and here's the Smurf Cynical question, how do you actually know they change anything Placebo effect has been proven to work. And they were quite a good band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Like I said, I'm just passing on what I've been told as I thought it would be useful to know. I'm not saying I'm getting it done, in fact I'm not, personally I'd rather keep it standard. Anyway, here's the website, see what you think...I'm sure there'll be much debate!! www.black-code.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 also TDi North are able to remap based in warrington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There is only 4 Uprev dealers in the UK Abbey Motorsport TDI North (Abbey Sub dealer) Warrington RS Tuning in Leeds Horsham Developments (Berkshire) And there is also a dealer in Ireland TDP in Wicklow just south of Dublin. We have seen a few cars tuned with the generic tunes which we know does work with these cars , we always tune every car on our in house Dynapack. Get you car remapped with Uprev far better system, you can even re-flash the car back to stock if needed. Any questions ask away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 There is only 4 Uprev dealers in the UK Abbey Motorsport TDI North (Abbey Sub dealer) Warrington RS Tuning in Leeds Horsham Developments (Berkshire) And there is also a dealer in Ireland TDP in Wicklow just south of Dublin. We have seen a few cars tuned with the generic tunes which we know does work with these cars , we always tune every car on our in house Dynapack. Get you car remapped with Uprev far better system, you can even re-flash the car back to stock if needed. Any questions ask away. Hi, thanks for the info. What benefits are there to Uprev? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I just did a little google on the black code stuff, from what I can make it it does sound very similar to Uprev but with rather generic maps rather than a dyno tested maps specifically tailored for your individual car. Loads of good feeback on their FB page. However, I'd have to be on a tight budget and it would have to be about £50 for me to consider it over an uprev and even then I'd only consider it if I was leaving the car pretty much stock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippypooz Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 I just did a little google on the black code stuff, from what I can make it it does sound very similar to Uprev but with rather generic maps rather than a dyno tested maps specifically tailored for your individual car. Loads of good feeback on their FB page. However, I'd have to be on a tight budget and it would have to be about £50 for me to consider it over an uprev and even then I'd only consider it if I was leaving the car pretty much stock. I agree, they sound reasonably professional and feedback is good...im gonna wait until i see a few more threads i think. Interesting to know though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I just did a little google on the black code stuff, from what I can make it it does sound very similar to Uprev but with rather generic maps rather than a dyno tested maps specifically tailored for your individual car. Loads of good feeback on their FB page. However, I'd have to be on a tight budget and it would have to be about £50 for me to consider it over an uprev and even then I'd only consider it if I was leaving the car pretty much stock. I agree, they sound reasonably professional and feedback is good...im gonna wait until i see a few more threads i think. Interesting to know though. Well you seem to be swaying towards the Black Code. Go for it if you feel like it, I'd just hate it if those guys took your money and it turns out to be a rip off. Just because all 350Z come off the same production line, it does not mean they then have the same life afterwards. Cars lives vary from caressed and loved to used and abused. This is what doing an UpRev takes into account, whereas the Black Code just throws out a generic map. It could be good for your car, it could be bad for your car, or if it's a fairly conservative map, then you wouldn't get the proper benefits of a remap. Just my opinion. Give it some good thought before you decide either way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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