BMW M3

[LRF4N]

Rich do you get comission from jag sales?

[Ekona]

XFR isn't a sports car though, it's the M5 competitor and the M5 is a much better car in either previous or current guise.

 

Current Jag range look and ride well, but in terms of driving dynamics they're still left behind by rivals. I'd have an XJSS as a waft mobile happily though.

[rtbiscuit]

Rich do you get comission from jag sales?

 

sadly not, but as an alternative to the usual german crowd itsa good competitor. it my not be as perfect as the M5, but then it also doesn't look like every other 5 series.

[Ekona]

But it looks like every other XF instead.

[rtbiscuit]

but there are a lot less xFs compared to 3 series and 5 series BMW's they have become the new mondeo. it used to be the sales rep wagon of choice, but they've all upgraded to bmw's. the jag badge is not as common. just look at German car sales figures they out sell any uk producer 10 to 1.

[Ekona]

I agree, but there's a reason they've sold so many and it's not because they're cheap. A Jag is fine if you don't want to be seen as a 'me too', but I'd rather just buy the better car and image be damned.

[rtbiscuit]

no I agree completely BMW make the best diesel engines bar non. their geo setups and chassis engineers are some of the best. the m3 and the m5 are possibly some of the best drivers cars. but for me I struggle to be a 'me too' person. its the lack sheer perfection that gives the jags their character; I do find some of the german stuff a bit soulless.

 

if I wanted something I could drive daily and track on a regular basis i'd get the bmw if I only did the occasional track day i'd get the xfr. the audi rs4 is worth a look, but they look just like every other audi. you could go cheaper and look at the Vauxhall range and play with the vxr another cracking car. buti struggle with the badge, even though I know its a great aussie car.

[Ekona]

New RS4 is lush, I'd love one as a DD.

[LRF4N]

I do like the newer generations of jaguars and im looking forward to seeing the x type replacement. But as ekona says there is a reason for bmws being so common is they're that good

 

I'm one of the first to say I like driving a rarer car but out of the more common marques I could see myself in a BMW

[gangzoom]

What you need is a car designed by Alfa, engineered at BMW/Audi, set up by Lotus/Jaguar and build in a factory run by Nissan/Toyota

Edited December 24, 2012 by gangzoom

[Ekona]

My choice:

 

Designed by Lotus, engineered by Lotus, set up by Lotus, built by VW, priced by Dacia!

[Spoony]

Completely different car from the Zed, very nice though, sound amazing, more room but expensive to run!

[wizard]

Nice car the E92 M3. A mate of mine has one.

Only tuneable in N/A form though, but if you have no plans to tune it then it's a good option.