AK350Z Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Good effort, but are you sure you don't fancy a helmet if you're pushing on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I have a question about and the ring times having never been there. As far as I am aware, you don't start at the start/finish line, you begin on the straight, so are these times from where you enter the track to where you have to pull off, or can you do 2 laps without stopping and start your timers at the real start/finish line? During public access or touristenfarhten in German you cannot do a complete flying lap. Customarily you time your lap from bridge to gantry(BTG). This time is about 30-40 secs less than a full lap depending on the car. The bridge (with Bilsteins advert) is as you go down to Tiergarten some 800yrds of the barriers and the gantry (with Audi advert) is at the end of galgenkoph or the beginning of Dottinger hohe (straights). You can through the barrier on Dottinger straights or in and out through the car park barrier during TF if you wanted to do back to back laps but these areas are coned so its a crawl through. If you are really interested in doing a proper full lap then you need to book a private trackday. There are loads to choose from but cost more. Google search is your friend but if you need specifics I can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Haha, It's scary enough on the PS3. I'm not man enough to do it in real life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 A GT5/Forza time attack thread would be fun, assuming Forza has a 350, Using a stock Zed with sports tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The only thing with practising on Forza or Gran Turismo is that you will sat in front of a TV. No matter how many hours you spend on a games console, it will not prepare you for: - sensation of speed - g-forces from elevation drops and corners - sensation of shitting your pants while experiencing both of the above :lol: Did a rough time of 12:00 BTG according to CCTV pics in the damp and being my virgin lap too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 You're 100% right about using games to practice, however, at least after 100 laps or so of the 'Ring on the PS3 or Xbox, you should have learnt the track pretty well and be able to take reasonable racing lines knocking minutes off your time compared to if you had never done a lap, virtual or otherwise. The only thing with practising on Forza or Gran Turismo is that you will sat in front of a TV. No matter how many hours you spend on a games console, it will not prepare you for: - sensation of speed - g-forces from elevation drops and corners - sensation of shitting your pants while experiencing both of the above :lol: Did a rough time of 12:00 BTG according to CCTV pics in the damp and being my virgin lap too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackpig Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 By all means, drive the ring on the PS3 and learn it like the back of your virtual hand but do not think you know the place in real life. Get over there and do a couple of laps then you will understand I am thinking of hitching the bike trailer up and taking the GSXR across again for some knee down action in the near future, now that is scary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soimafreak Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 You're 100% right about using games to practice, however, at least after 100 laps or so of the 'Ring on the PS3 or Xbox, you should have learnt the track pretty well and be able to take reasonable racing lines knocking minutes off your time compared to if you had never done a lap, virtual or otherwise. it's a nice thought but it really sint the same, on forza 3/4 the track is not really anything like reality. it has the right left's and rights and that's about it. The gradient on the corners is flatter in the game and the corners aren't as sharp. Certainly by doing a few laps on the game it will help some of it be more familiar, but you have to take it slow. I was told by an ex tester there it takes about 10 laps to know roughly the lefts and rights 100 laps to be able to go through safely at speed and about another 500 to really know it and go flat out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumping350 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I always thought this was a good vid, shows braking acceleration and forces applied can at least get a better picture of whats required from the car and when Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackosr Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Great Video, G 'force readings are interesting and help give you feel for what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Best quote that applies to this: “Experiencing the world through endless second-hand information isn’t enough, if we want authenticity we have to initiate it.†Taken from "The Art Of Flight" Red Bull Media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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