Mikevv Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Can I just ask, in case I've missed something, is it going to be a lease or purchase? BMW seem to do MILES better in the leases compared to Mercedes - Purely based on prices. They wanted more for a nicely optioned C220d than BMW wanted for a 330D with most of the options.... Mercedes came back around £700 per month, where as the BMW was just over £550 I think. Do you want maintenance included too? That's about £50 a month, which isn't bad considering it covers you 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 My Zed was my business car 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 They wanted more for a nicely optioned C220d than BMW wanted for a 330D with most of the options.... Mercedes came back around £700 per month, where as the BMW was just over £550 I think. £700 a month!! That's brand new Tesla money (and lots of other £50k+ car). The 220d engine in the Merc really is horrific for refinement, why buy a 'premium' badge and put up with such an awful noise/vibration. An Insignia diesel is more refined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Golf R is on deals again, you're looking at approx £180pcm right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Golf R is on deals again, you're looking at approx £180pcm right now. If its a business car isn't it meant to be sensible? like diesel? or do i misinterpret the situation? why have to hot cars? i do love the golf R though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Can I just ask, in case I've missed something, is it going to be a lease or purchase? BMW seem to do MILES better in the leases compared to Mercedes - Purely based on prices. They wanted more for a nicely optioned C220d than BMW wanted for a 330D with most of the options.... Mercedes came back around £700 per month, where as the BMW was just over £550 I think. Do you want maintenance included too? That's about £50 a month, which isn't bad considering it covers you 100% It will be a 2 year lease mate. I know what you mean about the C220d, its a great looking car but certainly wont be as much of a refined drive compared to the 3 series. The only issue I have with the 3 series is just the sheer number of them I see every single day. I would like something slightly different although it certainly wont be uncommon like the Z. Most likely wont be going for the maintenance option as I would sooner have the extra £50 a month for other things. i know you said the XF was out of budget what about the new XE ? smaller 3 series rival compared to the XF which is 5 series territory. should technically be cheaper? The XE is affordable but Im not a big fan, its more a retired gent turning up to golf every weeks car if you catch my drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I'm obviously 30 years ahead of my time I'm tempted by the XJ need a big boot and those things can hold several dead bodies in the back. so should cope with kids luggage fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Juts had a look at the Golf R business rates. They would be around my maximum spend for a 5dr model but the mpg on them isnt great. I think ide sooner have the Rocco GT, for a little less money and better fuel economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 I'm obviously 30 years ahead of my time I'm tempted by the XJ need a big boot and those things can hold several dead bodies in the back. so should cope with kids luggage fine Haha well its a nice car none the less, my girlfriends Dads is black with black alloys and does look smart. As a 25 year old ide feel a little out of place in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 See i have 10 years on you, and actually the jag love comes round faster than you think :wink: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 In 10 years time Im sure I will definitely be in the same boat. Taste matures like a fine fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 If you want fuel economy, then just get the cheapest thing you can possibly find. Who cares what it looks like or how it drives, it's a tool to serve a purpose. If you want something fun to put through the business, then get the most funnest thing you can. After all, why not?! For me, trying to compromise just leads to a car that does nothing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I disagree you can have sensible and fun, or fun and economical or practical, but a nice place to be. If i have to spend a lot of time in a vehicle i wouldn't want to be sat in the cheapest interior going just because it does an extra 5mpg, i'd rather sacrifice a little MPG for a nice cockpit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I wouldn't drive around in a plush 2 series diesel when I could do the exact same job in a Ka, and then take all the money I save by doing that to buy something I actually enjoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 i'd have both, something nice to drive to work, and something fun for the weekend. Currently can't afford the weekend toy so i just have to live with practical and nice. Jonty already has the zed for the weekend, so i suppose it depends on what he prioritises first in the company car. if its MPG then buy cheap and cheerful diesel muncher, if its comfort and cockpit then the germans are possibly going to be the front runners. if its fun and engaging, probably going down the leon route. if boot space and passenger space is key, then saloon and estate will be higher than hatch and supermini. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 But if you didn't get the Toureg and got something cheaper, like a Focus estate or whatever, you'd then have the money to get something nice for yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) But if you didn't get the Toureg and got something cheaper, like a Focus estate or whatever, you'd then have the money to get something nice for yourself I'd have a busted back, only reason for the 4x4 is the height and the boot space, double buggy and all stuff for twins took up a lot of space. the added height has stopped me completely busting my back putting them in and taking out ( I do most of the nursery pickups and drop offs). worth every penny in my books. for the price of the touareg i'd have ended up with 2 cheap cars that were less reliable than the 1 good car thats been faultless. Edited May 4, 2016 by rtbiscuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 i'd have both, something nice to drive to work, and something fun for the weekend. Currently can't afford the weekend toy so i just have to live with practical and nice. Jonty already has the zed for the weekend, so i suppose it depends on what he prioritises first in the company car. if its MPG then buy cheap and cheerful diesel muncher, if its comfort and cockpit then the germans are possibly going to be the front runners. if its fun and engaging, probably going down the leon route. if boot space and passenger space is key, then saloon and estate will be higher than hatch and supermini. Unfortunately the Z will have to go to make way for the company car. What I get for the Z will go in savings for a house deposit with the girlfriend then one day il go back to something fun for either the weekend or as a 2nd car. Right now ide settle for something with a combined mpg of 40 or more as anything is better than the Z's. Sacrificing performance is something ive got to accept just as long as its not something totally slow. A rocco 2.0 GT has around 46 combined mpg and will do 0-60 in 7.4, that ide be happy enough with. It also starts at around £180 a month inc VAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Golf R is blisteringly quick, more practical, and has MPG of 40 on the combined test. I cannot see why you'd go for the Scirocco over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Golf R is blisteringly quick, more practical, and has MPG of 40 on the combined test. I cannot see why you'd go for the Scirocco over that. Price mate, its £100 more a month with VAT. Also I find Golfs very average looking really, although I must admit the R is nice just expensive for a Golf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Cant see the Golf getting anywhere near 40mpg either , my VRS with the lower power but very similar engine struggles to get mid 30's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 If you want fuel economy, then just get the cheapest thing you can possibly find. Who cares what it looks like or how it drives, it's a tool to serve a purpose. Id have agreed about 10 years ago but the game has moved on - I had a DSG Golf GTI for a mega German trip last year (2800km in a week) and it was great fun, comfy and good looking. I drove it hard, hitting the speed limiter every day and still returned 36mpg, even my stupid 1 series can do over 30mpg if driven gently. Its like the diesel thing, 15 years ago youd only buy one if you were doing starship mileage but theyve come on so far that its the default choice for most people now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Price mate, its £100 more a month with VAT. Also I find Golfs very average looking really, although I must admit the R is nice just expensive for a Golf Hang on, I thought this was a business car? Are you not VAT registered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty88 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Price mate, its £100 more a month with VAT. Also I find Golfs very average looking really, although I must admit the R is nice just expensive for a Golf Hang on, I thought this was a business car? Are you not VAT registered? Deal in second hand goods (Antiques) so cant charge our customers VAT therefore not VAT registered. We can still qualify for business cars, we just cant claim the VAT back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ah, fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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