Slide the Z

[Zedrush]

Sorry break away from the how hard do you drive your Z, one question I always wanted to know the answer to, is how do you slide the rear end of your Z, Ive only done it by accident.

 

I watch films where they do heel toe movement on the break and accelerate (think you need to be double jointed for this move as its impossible to get my feet in that position)

 

I also see people do the handbrake turn.

 

 

What is the correct or best movement for this and step by step progress to perform such a move.

 

Also what damage or wear apart from tyres would this have on the car?

[mbs]

Don't tell him, even tho I've never met Zedrush I'd hate to see him have a serious nasty.

[ir_fuel]

What is the correct or best moement for this

 

NOT on a public road, but preferably an empty carpark

 

 

and step by step progress to perform such a move.

 

The easiest, turn and somewhere during the turn just push hard on the accelerator. The car will spin out. Now repeat this but with a little less pushing on the accelerator until you can keep it sliding. Simple as that .... (the theory that is, controlling a slide takes a lot of practice). There are a lot of ways to slide. Search on google for some videos of "the drift king", there is a video of about 1h out there with him explaining all kinds of slides and drifts

 

 

 

Also what damage or wear apart from tyres would this have on the car?

 

It puts quite some stress on some parts of the suspension/... of the car as you have forces on it sideways. If you want to play i suggest doing this in wet weather because it will slide more easily, and it will be at lower speeds and less abrupt.

[lotuscc]

If you want training then either CAT or drifting/rallying schools would be able to help.

 

You could try this (at your own risk of course):

Find big island with no other traffic.

Need traction control off.

Go round in a low gear, induce oversteer with throttle and apply opposite lock as needed.

If it is wet you can achieve this at lower speed.

 

An airfield track day allows you to play with understeer/oversteer in relative safety.

[nixy]

remind me someone - where's that thread where the young lad binned his Z and daren't tell his parents?

[Chris`I]

Also what damage or wear apart from tyres would this have on the car?

You could hit something hard like a tree or barrier and that would be bad

 

I have a divx somewhere that has the different drift techniques, remind me and I'll bring it to Phil's on a CD for ya

 

Few methods include handbrake, dropping the clutch and general booting the throttle

[nixy]

here it is - have a look again before you go out playing Zedrush!

 

http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic ... ht=parents

[sl114]

Jay DONT!

 

Wait until you have your track day and then see how it goes.

 

DO NOT DO IT ON THE ROADS as you will hit something or lose control.

[ir_fuel]

As I said, deserted car parks.

 

Oh yeah, and big car parks. You need lots of space, so supermarket ones with shopping trolleys, small trees and curbs arent necessarily the best choice

[Zedrush]

I have a big road outside my house Limiter does it all the time but wont tell me

 

Why was this movement invented, is it just for looks or does it really save time on corners?

[sl114]

I have a big road outside my house Limiter does it all the time but wont tell me

Seriously, your road is big, but for someone who will not be able to control a slide, its not that big.

 

If you are going to Birmingham on the weekend, go to the Arena carpark in coventry off the A444, HUGE carpark opposite

[sinbad]

best thing to do is slowly build up to it. TC off, get on an empty car park. Drive slowly at say 10mph (will help with controlling the car and your less likely to hit anything) then apply some lock and mash the throttle at the same time. As the car starts to drift start to apply some opposite lock and use your throttle and steering to control the slide.

 

I used to practice coming out of junctions as most of the time you can keep the throttle down and just use the steering to control the slide and straighten up. Saw plenty of people doing it on the Wales run

Start at low speeds and build up.

[Pingu2]

I have a big road outside my house Limiter does it all the time but wont tell me

 

Why was this movement invented, is it just for looks or does it really save time on corners?

 

generally speaking drifting/sliding will not be the quickest way round a corner (on tarmac at least - except in a real hairpin maybe)! but it does look good of course

 

you dont see F1 drivers drifting (much)..

[sinbad]

going off what Louis is saying. Id give up now, you sound like a sunday driver

[sinbad]

I have a big road outside my house Limiter does it all the time but wont tell me

 

Why was this movement invented, is it just for looks or does it really save time on corners?

 

generally speaking drifting/sliding will not be the quickest way round a corner (on tarmac at least)! but it does look good of course

 

you dont see F1 drivers drifting..

 

You need to watch Race of Champions then! Theyd drift round nearly every corner

 

 

Your right though, drifting isnt the fastest way.

[sl114]

 

That is how its done

[Zedrush]

But didnt the Drift King in Japan win all his races by drifting?

[Pingu2]

i am going to RoC on sunday

 

but that is a bit different from normal road or circuit driving .. the course is very tight (meaning some degree of drift is useful for setting the correct line) and of course they want to entertain the crowd too!

[Pingu2]

But didnt the Drift King in Japan win all his races by drifting?

 

http://www.driftclub.com/DriftKing.htm

 

Enter the Drift King. Drifting a car through a corner is not the fastest way around most turns any racecar driver will tell you strait out. This is where Keiichi Tsuchiya was crowned the Dori Kin or Drift King. In Option drift contests; style and technique are evaluated for exhibition values. Lately contests have been judged on racing lines and setup for multiple corner drifting, this is more difficult.

[sl114]

Jay i need to get you into D1 and EDC, then you will learn

[Zedrush]

here it is - have a look again before you go out playing Zedrush!

 

http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic ... ht=parents

 

Boy brings back memories when I accused the guy of being a scam artist, lol, helped him sell his car and he offered to take me out to eat to return the favour. Top bloke he was Lesson learnt

[sinbad]

But didnt the Drift King in Japan win all his races by drifting?

 

Nope he pretty much invented drifting. He used the technique in touge races which is usually a twisty mountain road.

[sl114]

But didnt the Drift King in Japan win all his races by drifting?

 

Nope he pretty much invented drifting. He used the technique in touge races which is usually a twisty mountain road.

Here you go Jay

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM4nhxA5hQs

[docwra]

You can do it off the power, but its actually more controllable using "clutch kick" - load the suspension up (i.e start going round a roundabout) and then just kick the clutch in enough so the revs rise up - its literally a stab rather than a kick.

 

This will cause the rear wheels to lose traction, so you need to be ready with the opposite lock Its actually easier to let go of the wheel and just feed the opposite lock in by letting the wheel pass through one hand - the car will apply its own op lock automatically.

 

Then its a case of keeping it sideways by balancing the throttle against the weight - its difficult to do this without practise on a constant throttle so blipping it is probably best to start with

 

With a little practise, you can quickly reach the point that you can do a 2nd gear (private) roundabout consistently until you run out of fuel. Faster stuff takes bigger balls, and is more likely to end in tears when you hit a kerb and fold the wheels up under the car Not that Ive ever doen that you understand.

 

S'funny - as you practise drifting more you find you are doing less and less - it goes from wild jazz hands type steering motions to never actually moving the wheel more than 15 degrees, then letting the car do the work. Everyone should buy a driftcar and practise IMO

[sl114]

Everyone should buy a driftcar and practise IMO

Dont tempt me, ive been looking at an S14 on pistonheads and using it as a drift car, just for fun really!!!!