Sarnie

Even I'm tired of this.......................... And I love a good keyboard fight

The thing is i wouldn't use launch control whether it was covered or not, as I wouldn't want to **** up my car. When you've owned a G you get used to not being able to launch from the lights, well not if you don't want to be hit with a huge clutch bill. I bought my car knowing I couldn't launch it from the lights and accepted the risks associated with it. Its a simple equation: GT-R - VDC = No warranty if it breaks. The press are the ones lauding the performance figures of the GT-R but what they haven't tested is the long term reliability of the car under intense driving, as some people are now finding out..... If I was a dealer principle and a broken GT-R came to me to be fixed and the data log said it had been given a hard life, with the VDC off and launched on numerous occassions, i wouldn't cough up for his doughnuts in McDonalds car parks.........

Me too....... Me too.......................................

But its not provided as standard, thats the point Sorry to disagree but it is standard - it is no different to traction control buttons or any other feature that can be used or otherwise by an owner - if the facility exists as fitted from the factory and without adding to or subtracting from the car's specification, then it is a standard item there to be used. It is for Nissan to prove abuse (i.e racing etc) for the warranty to be void. And note what Phil said who is probably the best placed to comment: A number of customers with UK orders have letters of confirmation that the warranty will not be invalidated by turning off the VDC. I read it but i wonder if you read it? Of course VDC is standard. Launch control is not standard which is what this thread is about. Turning VDC off does not void the warranty, which is obvious and don't need Phil to confirm. Turning off the VDC, thrashing your car via launch control or anyother method and then breaking it, will void the warranty.

Mark you must have more prices than an Argos catalogue. PMSL

I must say, i'm very underwhelmed so far with this car..............

But its not provided as standard, thats the point

Nothing special at the moment, I'm keeping my money in my bank (Where its not exactly safe there at the moment either) rather than cars as used prices are dropping like stones and working in the financial services industry, the short term future is not great at the moment......

I'm usually the one in shorts and flip flops even when its raining Theres a few of them around!! Usually next doors getting the beers!! Thats me and my mates.....

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening................. Its a bit like having a big red button on the dash saying don't press me. If using launch control or turning of VDC is going to cause so much harm then don't allow it. Except then they couldn't hype their car up with unachievable figures.... If the big red button said press me and it'll cost you £10k, would you? No but I would question why the button was there in the first place if its purpose appears to be self destruction. This reminds me of when Simon smashed his zed up but wouldn't say whether the traction control was on or not.......it was obviously off but wanted the insurance to pay up......... Its purpose is to allow you to drive the car without the restricting gadgetry. As per the warranty though, you do this and it breaks......your on your own........ Were not talking about defective parts here, were talking about abused cars. Warranty will pay out on defective parts not trashed one, as any warranty on any car would. ...or to entice you to drive the car in the manner in which it is marketed and hyped and then coin it in when you realise that it can't take the abuse. I think your being too cynical. Nissan are only going to lose sale and owners from the negative press from this. Anyone who thinks you can drive any car like you stole it without breaking it probably isn't intelligent enough to have a license......

Depends how you do it. I spend about half my time on track sideways and the other half neat and tidy. 99% of people on track do the same thing, just look at the Caterhams for proof If you're constantly spinning out and causing flags then you'll obviously get pulled on it, but the idea is to find your limits and then stick within them. The odd spin here or there is fine. Its sounds like all he wants to do is spin though

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening................. Its a bit like having a big red button on the dash saying don't press me. If using launch control or turning of VDC is going to cause so much harm then don't allow it. Except then they couldn't hype their car up with unachievable figures.... If the big red button said press me and it'll cost you £10k, would you? No but I would question why the button was there in the first place if its purpose appears to be self destruction. This reminds me of when Simon smashed his zed up but wouldn't say whether the traction control was on or not.......it was obviously off but wanted the insurance to pay up......... Its purpose is to allow you to drive the car without the restricting gadgetry. As per the warranty though, you do this and it breaks......your on your own........ Were not talking about defective parts here, were talking about abused cars. Warranty will pay out on defective parts not trashed one, as any warranty on any car would.

I'm usually the one in shorts and flip flops even when its raining

Its not a shiny black machine now my mate owns it I know, I had to stop him sticking it through a car wash the other day.....he's never washed a car in his life.......

Its not a shiny black machine now my mate owns it

I think the zed is my best mate who recently bought one..... I live about 100m's from the Uppercrust, in fact I walk up there and get my lunch from there most days.................and yeah, i would assume that was me as their aren't many orange G's in Coleshill..........

To my mind that reads as anything that breaks with VDC off is not covered under warranty not turn VDC off and you void your warranty.....

600bhp is in the car already, needs exhaust,decat, boost contoller and remap. How much roughly to achieve that then? £3.5k plus VAT Is that rrp? or what you paid? Seems pretty cheap to me for all that....... That will be the retail price, includes fitting and mapping. Bargain Are they your own parts or brand name goods?

600bhp is in the car already, needs exhaust,decat, boost contoller and remap. How much roughly to achieve that then? £3.5k plus VAT Is that rrp? or what you paid? Seems pretty cheap to me for all that.......

I live in Coleshill, where are you then?

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening................. Its a bit like having a big red button on the dash saying don't press me. If using launch control or turning of VDC is going to cause so much harm then don't allow it. Except then they couldn't hype their car up with unachievable figures.... If the big red button said press me and it'll cost you £10k, would you? I think the point is as phil said, the US car had massive numbers of launch's on its data log. Turning the VDC off isn't going to invalidate the warranty per se, but abusing it (via launch controls) when its off is going to put you at risk of big bills as the car can't stop you thrashing it like it can with the VDC on. No manufacturer is going to say turn off the gadget that prevents the car from getting trashed, cane it around town/ a track and we'll happily pick up the bill...... This reminds me of when Simon smashed his zed up but wouldn't say whether the traction control was on or not.......it was obviously off but wanted the insurance to pay up.........

600bhp is in the car already, needs exhaust,decat, boost contoller and remap. How much roughly to achieve that then?

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening.................

What mods gets the GT-R to 600 bhp to 480 bhp?