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Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening................. Its a bit like having a big red button on the dash saying don't press me. If using launch control or turning of VDC is going to cause so much harm then don't allow it. Except then they couldn't hype their car up with unachievable figures.... If the big red button said press me and it'll cost you £10k, would you? No but I would question why the button was there in the first place if its purpose appears to be self destruction. This reminds me of when Simon smashed his zed up but wouldn't say whether the traction control was on or not.......it was obviously off but wanted the insurance to pay up......... Its purpose is to allow you to drive the car without the restricting gadgetry. As per the warranty though, you do this and it breaks......your on your own........ Were not talking about defective parts here, were talking about abused cars. Warranty will pay out on defective parts not trashed one, as any warranty on any car would. ...or to entice you to drive the car in the manner in which it is marketed and hyped and then coin it in when you realise that it can't take the abuse. I think your being too cynical. Nissan are only going to lose sale and owners from the negative press from this. Anyone who thinks you can drive any car like you stole it without breaking it probably isn't intelligent enough to have a license......

Depends how you do it. I spend about half my time on track sideways and the other half neat and tidy. 99% of people on track do the same thing, just look at the Caterhams for proof If you're constantly spinning out and causing flags then you'll obviously get pulled on it, but the idea is to find your limits and then stick within them. The odd spin here or there is fine. Its sounds like all he wants to do is spin though

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening................. Its a bit like having a big red button on the dash saying don't press me. If using launch control or turning of VDC is going to cause so much harm then don't allow it. Except then they couldn't hype their car up with unachievable figures.... If the big red button said press me and it'll cost you £10k, would you? No but I would question why the button was there in the first place if its purpose appears to be self destruction. This reminds me of when Simon smashed his zed up but wouldn't say whether the traction control was on or not.......it was obviously off but wanted the insurance to pay up......... Its purpose is to allow you to drive the car without the restricting gadgetry. As per the warranty though, you do this and it breaks......your on your own........ Were not talking about defective parts here, were talking about abused cars. Warranty will pay out on defective parts not trashed one, as any warranty on any car would.

I'm usually the one in shorts and flip flops even when its raining

Its not a shiny black machine now my mate owns it I know, I had to stop him sticking it through a car wash the other day.....he's never washed a car in his life.......

Its not a shiny black machine now my mate owns it

I think the zed is my best mate who recently bought one..... I live about 100m's from the Uppercrust, in fact I walk up there and get my lunch from there most days.................and yeah, i would assume that was me as their aren't many orange G's in Coleshill..........

To my mind that reads as anything that breaks with VDC off is not covered under warranty not turn VDC off and you void your warranty.....

600bhp is in the car already, needs exhaust,decat, boost contoller and remap. How much roughly to achieve that then? £3.5k plus VAT Is that rrp? or what you paid? Seems pretty cheap to me for all that....... That will be the retail price, includes fitting and mapping. Bargain Are they your own parts or brand name goods?

600bhp is in the car already, needs exhaust,decat, boost contoller and remap. How much roughly to achieve that then? £3.5k plus VAT Is that rrp? or what you paid? Seems pretty cheap to me for all that.......

I live in Coleshill, where are you then?

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening................. Its a bit like having a big red button on the dash saying don't press me. If using launch control or turning of VDC is going to cause so much harm then don't allow it. Except then they couldn't hype their car up with unachievable figures.... If the big red button said press me and it'll cost you £10k, would you? I think the point is as phil said, the US car had massive numbers of launch's on its data log. Turning the VDC off isn't going to invalidate the warranty per se, but abusing it (via launch controls) when its off is going to put you at risk of big bills as the car can't stop you thrashing it like it can with the VDC on. No manufacturer is going to say turn off the gadget that prevents the car from getting trashed, cane it around town/ a track and we'll happily pick up the bill...... This reminds me of when Simon smashed his zed up but wouldn't say whether the traction control was on or not.......it was obviously off but wanted the insurance to pay up.........

600bhp is in the car already, needs exhaust,decat, boost contoller and remap. How much roughly to achieve that then?

Don't drive with the VDC off then I never took it off in my zed's or G as I didn't drive them like I stole them and didn't want to be hit with a massive bill. The only reason to turn VDC off is to thrash it beyond the parameters of what the VDC allows. Its a machine, it has limits. If you don't want to see what happens when you go past those limits, don't turn the VDC off. If there was problems with the transmission on cars that had never turned the VDC off then yes, it may be a chocolate gearbox, but thats not what happening.................

What mods gets the GT-R to 600 bhp to 480 bhp?

I thought all zeds needed the clutch depressing too?

Yep. Hence why my money stayed in my pocket. I'd buy a GT-R but not until they are here in the uk, the service centres are set up and the car has all its problems ironed out, via warranty or not. Nissan are dipping their toe into the supercar category but still mugging people off like its a £3k Micra. People with £60k to spend won't give it to Nissan if they carry on like this. Interestingly early G's are hitting £60k now.....................

If they are going to launch a car with a 0-60 time quoted as 3.4 but the only way this can be done is by using launch control, I would think it a little unfair to void peoples warranty for using launch control in order to have the car perform as advertised. Having said that, I dont see anywhere in Nissans own litterature that this 3.4 figure is quoted. I can see the clutch being wear and tear, but voiding the warranty on the transmission for using a feature of the car? Sounds like a chocolate gearbox to me. Reading the forums in the US, there are more and more of these transmission failures appearing. I would still be interested to hear peoples views on the second hand market for these cars. Would you buy one 18 months old? How would you know if the VDC had been turned off or not. You could be buying a car with a box about to let go, and effectively no warranty. As for running costs, there are more details appearing in the US as people go over the various milestones... With the habbit of rip off Britain, what do people reckon to the $1000 transmission fluid change at 6000 miles? http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php ... 2947&st=40 As you say, the 3.4 0-60 is not a Nissan quoted time, its just what the press have been achieving and its been taken as official, when its not. The thing is, launch control wasn't supposed to be a feature of the car. It was discovered by journalists via a 'leak' from Nissan. If it was a feature to be included in the cars spec it would have a button/switch on the dash or steering wheel like the 430. With regard to buying a 2nd hand one, you should be able to take the car to a HPC and have them hook it up to their systems for a pre-purchase check up, like lambo do. £500 is reasonable for any service on a car of this price and performance, that £500 will more likely be £800 or so in the uk. It all depends on when the next serice is due and the cost of that........

So where is he?

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Sounds quiet...............

PS: Car needs lowering and spacers :lol:

my sense of humour is fully intact, I just can't get round all the posts these days.............although i do try my hardest.....

Well their is no launch control on the G. There is on the 430, not sure about the 360. Also, the clutch is a wear and tear item unless defective. The lambo clutch issue was that the first 4-5 revisions of the clutch were **** poor and not down to people hammering their cars. Dom at Lambo Brum said its very easy to get a read out of your driving style to determine if you or the clutch was at fault. The point here is whether the clutch/tranny is defective or weak or if the driver is at fault. If you turn the VDC off in a GT-R and engage launch control, then surely your at fault for fooking up the tranny, clutch or whatever else? If I was Nissan I wouldn't pay out on these claims either, why should they?