BobbyZ

I have to add, this whole affair has left a seriously bad taste for me regarding politics. I'd accepted long ago that politicians stretched the truth a lot, and I even defended them because I thought that people often forget that they're only human when criticising and judging them. To have the true nature of politics exposed so plainly though has really left me wondering if I'll ever bother to vote for anything again. EDIT: correcting made up phrases

It's ridiculous that politicians can tell so many lies during a campaign and get away with it. I hope they've at least rendered themselves unelectable, but sadly I feel that they'll just carry on, BAU. The £350m figure wasn't a 'mistake' as the article puts it either - it was a lie.

That's a bit drastic. I'm not white either, but you can bet your b*llocks to a barndance that Brexit won't be stopping me from driving my zed!

Are these the Duralumin ones? If so, dibs please

How childish Solid 34.6%

Well someone said it on Twitter - it doesn't get more true than that

You won't get a meaningful performance gain. Go with what looks and sounds best to you

Be careful coming off the throttle too sharply. If you're at the limit the weight transfer to the front of the car can cause the car to snap into oversteer.

This is probably your best bet. Either that or on such a low budget, wait for a decent second hand one.

Oh good, so now the referendum's over the politicians are going to carry on arguing about it anyway

Are you really lecturing me on that? In UK Africans are immigrants. Arabs are immigrants. Asians are immigrants. Eastern European are immigrants. However, Brits living abroad are expats because they can’t be at the same level as other ethnicities or nations. They are superior. Immigrants is a term set aside for "inferior races" or "inferior nations". According to Miriam-Webster: - the word “Expatriate†is actually a verb or an adjective and means someone “living in a foreign landâ€. - the word “Immigrant†is a noun and means “a person who comes to a country to take permanent residenceâ€. If we go only by these definitions above, I see one major distinction that sets them apart. Immigrants have an intention to stay – whereas for the expatriates this intention isn’t mentioned and isn’t clear. So retiring in Spain as a Brit makes you Expat or Immigrant? Rhetorical, of course. Immigration means people coming into ones country, so British people wouldn't describe Brits moving abroad as immigrants. That said, the word immigrant has become associated with the anti-immigration movement, which in turn has become associated with racism, so I take your point that the word has negative implications. EDIT: I also acknowledge that 'immigrant' has become more of a blanket term than the strict definition I gave above.

You don't really expect integrity from the media, do you?

I'm not sure how you're disagreeing... I didn't say it did anyone any favours. My point was that once you see the major parties converge in their policies to the extent that we've reached as a result of being comfortable no matter who's in power, the real principals get discarded and it comes down to winning votes by any means necessary. Tony Blair did this to perfection. I dislike criticism of people like Trump, purely because if he shouldn't be in the position he's in, it should be the system that's questioned rather than the man that exposed any flaws in it.

The thing is, in the good old days the opposition presented a real alternative. The problem with politics in developed countries these days is that we've reached a stage where we're very comfortable whoever's in power, and I think the natural outcome of that is that the major parties converge in their policies to steal votes off each other until it's reduced to petty squabbling. Corbyn may be unelectable, but at least he stands up for the values that he feels his party represents. That's commendable, and while I'll never agree with his political stance, I do think he's very good for politics (to some extent I feel the same about Donald Trump).

Indeed. What does that say about how politics works these days? It's flawed. Take no notice of the BS that comes out of there mouths í ½í±í ¼í¿»í ½í±í ¼í¿»í ½í±í ¼í¿»í ½í±í ¼í¿» Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And yet, most people vote based on that BS that you refer to

Indeed. What does that say about how politics works these days?

Any Quakers in here? I've been playing Quake Live for a few years now. Old school, but still the toughest FPS out there

Definitely. It's good to see a politician saying what they actually think, regardless of whether I agree or not.

I have a strong feeling that we'll vote to remain anyway. It's been alright for comedy value I guess. I'm not sure I can bring myself to vote for anything in future, seeing what modern politics has become.

It pains me to say it, but I agree. Far too pointless to warrant a petition, because A) it's not gonna happen and it's just not important.

Judging by what the campaigns have been like so far, the only progression I can see happening is that they start insulting each others mums.

Oh no... I didn't realise that we'll only be able to buy English produce here if we leave. Better vote in then

I don't think anyone's about to applaud the Government for wasting money on anything, but that's what Governments (and plenty of other organisations) are like. It doesn't mean that the amount of wastage that being in the EU causes us shouldn't be debated, as this is one of the issues that affects the referendum.

If it's out of alignment, sure, but someone mentioned that on the first page I was referring to you suggesting non-standard geo settings, which is definitely not the first step to getting comfortable with the car IMO.

Agree with what you said, although I think it's jumping the gun a bit with regards to the OP's problem.