i have the Teins and i love them, very subtle and the ride is spot on, not to harsh not to stiff. passengers dont even realise there is aftermarket suspension on but it does change the drive to be more responsive. i only needed to lower a little bit and i still ended up rubbing due to the tyre sizes. If you do rub its really easy to roll the arches and i have an arch roller for hire not rubbed once after rolling and i only rolled it subtly.