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136.9p for Diesel in my local Morrisons

I can't say I agree. I'm convinced my shed runs on fresh air after the first 5 miles of a trip. ...and the zed, you turn the key and it gulps 2 thirds of a tank for the pleasure

I can't say I agree. I'm convinced my shed runs on fresh air after the first 5 miles of a trip. ...and the zed, you turn the key and it gulps 2 thirds of a tank for the pleasure

Amuse front and rear! Sheer class

Amuse front and rear! Sheer class

Well done GKP holders - wish I had got in on that lovely rise you have had recently. When is it going to be RRLs time. Spudding ceremony in Punty soon supposedly so hopefully this drums up some interest.

Well done GKP holders - wish I had got in on that lovely rise you have had recently. When is it going to be RRLs time. Spudding ceremony in Punty soon supposedly so hopefully this drums up some interest.

Varis carbon fibre front spoiler This is the worst thread ever!

Varis carbon fibre front spoiler This is the worst thread ever!

Yeah, link error dude. That guy is a total pedo and lives in the town I stay in - or at least did. I am pretty sure he would of been hounded out by now.

Yeah, link error dude. That guy is a total pedo and lives in the town I stay in - or at least did. I am pretty sure he would of been hounded out by now.

Like most organisations though - a reputation takes many to build positively and only a few to ruin. Policing in my area sometimes really annoys me. For example, there is a lane in a town near me that only buses and taxis are allowed through between 9-6. A couple of days ago, the police were issuing fines to cars as they came round the corner in this lane. OK, it serves the drivers right for going through the lane when they shouldn't have been but had the coppers walked 50 paces round the corner the could have PREVENTED people from doing this. They were being reactive rather than proactive. My friend is a cop and asked for the day off recently - her senior 'joked' if she caught two people on their mobile phones she could have it off. I have also heard of other cops having competitions to see who could get the most in one day. On the other side I recognise there are many decent cops who wouldn't do such things. I know there are many coppers on here will offer first hand insight. The point I am making is a reputation can be ruined by a few while others a re working hard to make a real difference.

I agree with quite a few of your points but the above is something that needs addressed. This is not sentencing as such but consider the rioting a while back - if they had used live rounds once, that would have sorted it. OK maybe a little harsh but they should of been allowed rubber bullets and water cannons from the offset. Look at theft rates in the middle east where your hands are cut off it you are caught and convicted. I am not saying we need to go so extreme but there are no real consequences in this country. Scum say 'There's nothing you can do' and they are right.

So have all tax payers - nobody has asked you to contribute any 'hard earned' in this thread. It's in the off topic discussion section of the site to share any opinion or insight you have on the case. I do however appreciate there are dozens of other cases up and down the country like this that have not had the same media attention.

A very insightful comment. You must of been on the jury.

The minimum is NEVER the minimum unless you are a psycho serial killer .... which unfortunately these chaps are not We will see what happens in a few years No, in this case as far as I'm aware they must serve at least this long before they can be considered before parole and even then need to prove that they are no longer a threat to the general public.

I in no way agree with the article - I stated my viewpoint in the original post. I was just interested to see if people agreed with the writer's viewpoint that people shouldn't be tried twice for the same crime. In my opinion they should of been found guilty the first time but I think there were many errors made and institutional racism some suggest - they are guilty as sin and I hope Dobson gets bummed in jail and grasses the whole lot it. What boils my blood is the others that have not been charged again are living in huge houses, driving fancy cars and don't have jobs.

I knew the basics of this case when it went to retrial but can't say that I followed it in any great detail. Since the sentencing of Norris and Dobson, I have watched several interviews of the 5 suspects and read much more detail to the background of this case. I am interested to hear the views of other people on here as after reviewing the material, I believe that the suspects were hugely racist and undeniably guilty of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. If anything I think the sentences that they were given were far too lenient (I understand this is because they had to be charged as minors using the laws that were in place 18 years ago). I also believe that the person holding the knife on that night is one of the other five who haven't been arrested but that is speculation on my part after watching certain footage. The reason I ask is because I read this in the newspaper today and wonder if there are any others that agree with its thinking. It talks about the changes in 'Double Jeopardy' laws that have allowed Norris and Dobson to be tried again - the author of this article feels it is unjust. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... ds-newsxml

Welcome aboard!

Welcome to the club! :-)

Welcome!

Excuse the dirt just now - I'm ashamed To get them sitting straight this was required Once fitted:

I didn't as my painter fitted them - I'm too much of a DIY noob. I had the same issues though mate - I will go take some snaps now. Two mins!

Why has nobody did this yet???? Jay???

I am the full shine kit mate and where the sill goes inside the door you will see a hole - that bit should be attached to the body. I had the same issue on my sills. I could go take a picture but its quite dark - let me know if you want me to.