Bodyboarder81 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Has anybody fitted these? Can't really find alot of info on them .... I'm looking at the I think the b6/8 dampers to be used with my tein springs . Looking to improve the handling with regards road use and the odd track day Any feedback would be great ..... Also Does anyone have any experience with the ohlins coilovers as well? Alot more expensive but would this be a good set up for road compliance and track work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITZ@CougarStore Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Josh, this is something we've supplied and fitted many times over, Matt did a write up after we fitted the same to his... Edited December 30, 2014 by CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Hi dude .... Where can I find the write up? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Also interested in this, what is the benefit of fitting these over coilovers for pretty much the same price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Also interested in this, what is the benefit of fitting these over coilovers for pretty much the same price? For me anyway I'm happy with the ride height I'm running on the teins , I just want improve on the standard dampers if possible ? If I'm going to go coilovers I think you need to go top end to really gain anything .... That's why the ohlins caught my eye .... But at £2500 they are making my eye water as well !! On a side note .... Fitted the eibach arbs .... Great upgrade Edited December 30, 2014 by Bodyboarder81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Anti roll bars great place to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Yes ARBs completely transform the car, however the rear end can be a bit 'floaty'. It's tail happy at much lower speeds which is great, but feels a bit more dodgy on higher speed bends, which I think is lack of confidence more than anything tbh. Turn in massively improves and oversteer seems almost non-existent. Wondering if these dampers will improve further, as I'm also happy with the ride height of my Teins Edited December 30, 2014 by Jp606 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Bilstein are up there with the best in terms of suspension tech and they make great products for road cars from their Motorsports know how. If you really want a track day damper then you need to get thier clubsports package. The lesser variants are focused on fast road sportiness and the occasional trackday and they all use the factory soft top mounts and progressive springs to maintain daily driving compliance which is what made me get rid of the KWs which are comparable in terms of quality and performance. Ohlins also are in the same bracket so either of the three will be perfect but I would consider meister R which is UK designed and manufactured and tuned for our roads and then track performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'm starting to look at meister R also for next year as KW have been shocking in their dealing with customer service. Absolutely hate them for the service I received from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zedd Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Not had any experience of these lately, but back in the 70's and 80's Bilstein was the best quality dampers you could buy. They were used by all the top pro works rally teams throughout the world. Any half decent rally car worth its salt would have a set of Bilsteins fitted. Top quality units.......just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 That's the other option, the MeisterR ZETA-S coilovers for not a lot more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I just worry about coilovers ruining the road compliance and comfort ? Gt4z - in your understanding and experience would the bilstein b6 work well with the tein springs and there spring rate ? Or can I get the same comfort running coilovers nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Think you'd need the B8 for shorter springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What is your budget ? I was thinking Bilstein B16's - great company to deal with if you need rebuilds as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Not sure really on budget ......whatever I need to spend really, don't want to do it again so dont mind spending a bit .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I just worry about coilovers ruining the road compliance and comfort ? Gt4z - in your understanding and experience would the bilstein b6 work well with the tein springs and there spring rate ? Or can I get the same comfort running coilovers nowadays? Do you mean getting the Bilstein dampers only and pairing it with the Tein springs? That would be ok as the tein springs are designed to work with OEM dampers and the bilstein dampwrs are an upgrade on the OEM. I would consider the B8 which is a monotube damper. However if you want to focus on performance/sportiness then the B12, 14 or 16 would be the choice as theses are complete with matching progressive springs with good road compliance.. The B16 would be the most sporty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 I just worry about coilovers ruining the road compliance and comfort ? Gt4z - in your understanding and experience would the bilstein b6 work well with the tein springs and there spring rate ? Or can I get the same comfort running coilovers nowadays? Do you mean getting the Bilstein dampers only and pairing it with the Tein springs? That would be ok as the tein springs are designed to work with OEM dampers and the bilstein dampwrs are an upgrade on the OEM. I would consider the B8 which is a monotube damper. However if you want to focus on performance/sportiness then the B12, 14 or 16 would be the choice as theses are complete with matching progressive springs with good road compliance.. The B16 would be the most sporty. Yes looking at the b8 to be used with my tein springs. My car won't see alot of track action so the road compliance is the key factor for me ...... I like the ride height I'm at as I don't need to mess around with camber arms as it is. But I would like to make it go round corners better ! I know it's all a comprimise really ... But if changing to coilovers such as the meisters ( don't know anything about them really) would get me a better road and odd track day set I'm I'm fine with changing . From previous experience I've always found coilovers to be very harsh on the road , but haven't had any on a car for quite a few years . Has it changed now ? Can you get a good quality ride on our bumpy roads as well good on track ? Are the ohlins really worth the price tag .... As they claim to to both vey well? Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 It comes down to budget really. What's your budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Would £1500 be a good amount? But I could stretch to the ohlins if they really are the best for road and track....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z_Lover Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hi mates,.......happy new year, i know several guys from the german forum who were very satisfied with the Bilstein B6 ( if u use oem springs or lower springs down to -25mm). i just bought a set of B6 at an amazing price of 508€ shipped. If u want to lower ur Z between -30 to -40mm you should take the B8 dampers,....they have a shorter rebound. For a sportive use on normal roads and some trackdays they are an excellent choice. Will post a link where u can look in the spotted area for that cheap dampers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Ok mate thanks for the info , yes I'm only lowered about 15mm so I guess the b6 would suit me ...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Personally if your budget can stretch to it ohlins coil-overs with the correct spring rate and valved for fast road would be my choice, one of the best dampers out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) I'd like to just potentially confuse you a tiny bit more as well Now I'm purchasing some parts for sharper steering feel, and better road handling (with perhaps 3 track days a year), this at some point is going to involve coilovers. As mentioned, if you are going to spend around £1500 - I'd most likely go with the Bilstein B16's, their warranty is exceptionally good if you have issues (no quibble warranty if they fail, replaced no questions) or MeisterR GT1 which iirc is tailored to your needs (road/track/comfort). However, I'm not sure I can afford to do that now, so I'm more than likely going to go with MeisterR Zeta-R and hopefully plop it on their finance. Edited January 3, 2015 by RobPhoboS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Is it possible to get the comfort levels from coilovers then? The ohlins would be very nice and if I could find some people using them I might be more inclined to go for these , again the meisters seem like a good choice .... British made and designed for your roads and also on the forum so would be able to phone them up and have a chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 With coilovers comfort very much depends on the quality and selection of the internal valving, and getting the correct spring rates to match, a Lot of cheaper coilovers have a tendency to be over damped with a hard spring rate...which to some gives the impression of a sporty ride when in fact its mostly the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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