GC350z Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 From sky news: Lewis Hamilton is under investigation by Formula One officials after YouTube footage appeared to show him driving recklessly during the recent Japanese grand prix. The McLaren driver, who leads the Drivers' Championship, has been accused by a rival driver of instigating a collision through his actions. Championship leader Lewis HamiltonRed Bull driver Mark Webber says Hamilton caused him to hit Toro Rosso's Sebastian Vettel by speeding up and slowing down behind the safety car. An FIA official said: "We understand the stewards of the meeting have received new evidence and are looking into the relevant matter. "It would be inappropriate for us to comment any further at this particular stage, in particular as to what penalty, if any, might be imposed." Hamilton, who won the grand prix has a 12-point lead over teammate and current champion Fernando Alonso. The 22-year-old stands to become the youngest driver and the first black driver to win the title if he can better Alonso's finish in next Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai. --------------- Knew about him speeding up and slowing and it possibly being a distraction for Vettel but didn't actually see any footage of it. Searching for the video now. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 youtube? i thought most f1 cars including the safety car have on-board cameras? surely they would have seen it on them? i didnt think the FIA would resort to scanning youtube? maybe im wrong.. Oh well lets wait and hear what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 There were 3 videos on youtube relating to it but all have been removed. This one was removed but was hosted elsewhere. Doesn't show much. When the crash occurred the camera missed it but you can see Webber is up beside Hamilton. http://www.mediafire.com/?fnkej2xbbfy There may of been an onboard video on youtube that's been removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev946 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Racing used to be a gentlemans sport. Not any more. Seems Lewis's arrival is turning them all into bickering girlies. Not offence to any girlies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/10/04/v ... ighlights/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Just watched it on the news, seems pretty blameless. He has to stay within 5 lengths of the safety car which he may have exceeded but with other cars piling through on the inside and him staying wide I cant see that they will be able to say he is to blame. Some of the others seem to be getting desperate and I must say, pretty pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 He will probably get partial blame but no punishment. Webber is equial in blame as is Vettel. Hamilton has to stay within distance of safety car. Webber can't pass Hamilton. Vettel is watching Hamilton go wide. Vettel's 10 place punishment might get reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Is it just me or is anyone else asking how the chuff that could have been the fault of Hamilton? Radio evidence if it is recorded would presumably back up Lewis' statement on the event, and would suggest that he was concious the driver behind was too close and he went wide in order to avoid an incident. It seems to me that Vettel and Webber were simply not concentrating on their own driving in very poor conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 No, you right. I think Hamilton did the right thing. Vettel went into Webber, he should have slowed further back and kept his distance. The car at the back is at fault, just like it would be on the public road. I know its different but thats how i see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I fear Hamilton may have inadvertantly turned all of the other driver's lunches to sour grapes. Grow up lads, you got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sky sports website ---- "Fernando Alonso has backed Formula 1's investigation into World Championship rival Lewis Hamilton." how does that not surprise me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Alonson's toys,rattle and blanket have well and truely been thrown from his pram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sky sports website ---- "Fernando Alonso has backed Formula 1's investigation into World Championship rival Lewis Hamilton." how does that not surprise me! What an A**EHOLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 The latest is he will not be punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 But Vettel's 10 place penalty has been changed to just a reprimand. So according to the FIA, it was no-ones fault?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redzed Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 The latest is he will not be punished. Absolutely right, all this bickering is getting on my tits Other drivers are making themselves look childish. Get them all in BTCC for a season with Plato and see how they like that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev946 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 The latest is he will not be punished. Absolutely right, all this bickering is getting on my tits Other drivers are making themselves look childish. Get them all in BTCC for a season with Plato and see how they like that!! Here here.... Hamilton said before the outcome he would be prepared to quit if he was punished and did not want to be a part of F1 if this behaviour carried on. Quite right if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redzed Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I know this is slightly off topic but still F1 related. Look at what the wailing Spanish Wuss has said now http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2781366,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 The latest is he will not be punished. Absolutely right, all this bickering is getting on my tits Other drivers are making themselves look childish. Get them all in BTCC for a season with Plato and see how they like that!! Here here.... Hamilton said before the outcome he would be prepared to quit if he was punished and did not want to be a part of F1 if this behaviour carried on. Quite right if you ask me. http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40948 His comments sound a lot like those made by Alonso not so long ago. Like a child. If he quit I'd fly over to China and give him a good kick in the head. The three of them drove poorly under the safety car and weather conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yes - threatening to walk out if things didnt go his way was somewhat childish. He is only 22 though, and I am fortunate enough to still remember what its like to be that age, so probably just his temper getting the better of him - but still, not a very mature thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signwizard Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yes - threatening to walk out if things didnt go his way was somewhat childish. He is only 22 though, and I am fortunate enough to still remember what its like to be that age, so probably just his temper getting the better of him - but still, not a very mature thing to say. Sh*t I can't...its a long long time ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I know this is slightly off topic but still F1 related. Look at what the wailing Spanish Wuss has said now http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2781366,00.html Oh yes - things arent going his way, so its everyone else thats wrong. Yet when the car is half a second quicker and things are on the up, its all down to his driving... I think the only component missing from Alonsos car is one of these: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev946 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Lewis would have been advised before any statements were made, so not sure it was his age or anything. Personally I think that was a good tactic and I would have done the same. F1 needs Lewis next year if only for the extra interest he has created. The guy was simply standing up for himself, which I think is justified, since everyone else seems to have it in for him. As for his driving, he is in his rookie year for god's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Lewis would have been advised before any statements were made, so not sure it was his age or anything. Personally I think that was a good tactic and would have done the same. F1 needs Lewis next year if only for the extra interest he has created. The guy was simply standing up for himself, which I think is justified, since everyone else seems to have it in for him. As for his driving, he is in his rookie year for god's sake. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoREoD Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 You do realise that if Lewis wins the championship it might make Alonso cry! Then how will you feel?? !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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