Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 So, last week I fitting my new wheel spacers... Awesome! Putting the lock nuts back on I sheared one fair enough I could have over tightened it in my excitement (I don't have a torque wrench). Now got back the my car after work a week later and I see the head of a lock nut just lying there next to the car, odd. Upon closer inspection it was exactly like the one I sheared last week. I checked the wheel an it seems it has just decided to pop off whilst I was at work! Turns out all but 1 have done this. I've never had this before... But now I'm stuck with 3 sheared nuts!! Does anyone have any possible solution? Quote
Dblock Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Usually need to be drilled out I think? Or is there an extraction tool? Quote
BulletMagnet Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 What brand spacers are these? If they are a reputable brand like H&R or Eibach, I'd get onto whoever sold them to you and ask for replacements as this should not happen. Only other solution I can think of is to buy a set of wheels that doesn't require spacers. Quote
Ekona Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Definitely shouldn't happen, I'd be getting onto the supplier Quote
Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 Just got the car home and had a good look. It's the studs in the spacers, try are a fraction longer that standard. For the normal nuts that was ok as they have plenty of extra depth in them, but for the lock nuts they are too long and I'm only talking maybe half a mm but that's enough for them to be tightening onto the end of the stud rather than the wheel. I've got some nut extractors but as they are really for rounded hex heads I'm not sure how well they will work on something that is circular in the first place. I really don't want to have to be drilling out studs. Yes definently will be sending off and email to the supplier. They are from JDM-Revolution who are primarily an eBay based company. I'm not going to form any biased opinion of them just yet as I will see how JDM-R want to play it from here. I'll keep you all updated... Thanks for the quick replys though Quote
tc350z Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Not sure if that can be drilled, looks pretty nasty. Try visiting your local Nissan dealer, I had a similar problem but mines still had the head? Anyways visited a few garages that couldn't take it off with there tools so my last option was Nissan and pay the big bucks, surprisingly they got the darn thing off in minutes where others failed and it was free of charge! Quote
cs2000 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Yeah, they can reverse drill them. A special kind of drill but where the threads go in the opposite direction and grabs the metal on the inside to remove it. You can most certainly snap a nut by tightening it, but id be wary of anything that just falls off overnight! Quote
glrnet Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Be interesting to know how you get on but agree with BM that for things as crucial as something that keeps your wheels on your car use a trusted supplier. Quote
tc350z Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Not sure if that can be drilled, looks pretty nasty. Try visiting your local Nissan dealer, I had a similar problem but mines still had the head? Anyways visited a few garages that couldn't take it off with there tools so my last option was Nissan and pay the big bucks, surprisingly they got the darn thing off in minutes where others failed and it was free of charge! Quote
350 Russ Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Order and extraction socket on eBay, it's gotten a locking wheel nut off of mine before, it wasn't snapped like yours but hopefully should work, won't cost much either. That's one way of making sure no-one will steal your wheels Try here; http://bit.ly/15cVJZr Edited June 17, 2013 by 350 Russ Quote
ddcboyle Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Just question on topic, do the good branded spacers require different nuts? Or should standard be okay? Quote
Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 Ddcboyle They provide nuts to attach the spacer to the car, and you use your original to attach the wheel to the spacer like you would normally. Don't get me wrong these appear to be decent spacers, just non standard stud length unfortunately. Well just had a stroke of luck, as the nuts tightened onto the bolt instead of the alloy, when they sheared, the shaft that was left was loose to the touch so they just spun off! Here's a pic of 1 of the sheared lock nuts, the last surviving lock nut and a new bolt which there was a set of in the boot. Notice the big difference in the size between the lock but and the normal nut. Quote
rtbiscuit Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Just to clarify is it your original locking wheel nut or new nuts supplied with the spacers. Most spacers only have nuts to hold the spacer on and you re use your own wheel nuts. Or did you get new locking nuts? Its not un common for locking nuts, especially oem ones to shear off. The jag ones do it and I've heard of some vw ones do it. Its often worth upgrading to mcgaurd ones. Quote
Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Its the OEM lock nuts that failed. I even have the packet that they come in from Nissan, KE409-89950 ND If anyone is interested in the part # Edit- it does say on the nissan packet "made in the USA".... I blame the yanks haha Edited June 17, 2013 by Scully Quote
rtbiscuit Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I'd ring Nissan and ask them to fix it, get them to book it in with a local Nissan dealership to remove them for free. That is if they are brand new and only just fitted. Quote
Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Well just had a stroke of luck, as the nuts tightened onto the bolt instead of the alloy, when they sheared, the shaft that was left was loose to the touch so they just spun off! Problem solved, all that I'm doing now is taking it up with JDM-R, the least the can do is change the stud length in there designs and pay for a new set of nuts And no they are not new at all, look like the original lock nuts Edited June 17, 2013 by Scully Quote
Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Its often worth upgrading to mcgaurd ones. The standard ones are mcguard, my lock key has it stamped on it Edited June 17, 2013 by Scully Quote
Ekona Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Even if they were new, why should Nissan fix it? They were installed on a non-OEM application, it's the spacer at fault not the nuts I think. Quote
rtbiscuit Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 The way it was explained I thought it was the nuts that failed. Need sleep and to read threads more clearly Quote
Scully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 Haha yeah it's the spacers at fault, but like I said will have to see what JDM-R have to say on the matter. I'm just glad no drilling was involved. Quote
BulletMagnet Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 So you used the supplied nuts & studs to attach the spacer to the hub, and then re-used the OEM studs in the spacer to attach the wheels....right? Quote
gsexr Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Looks to me like the studs are too long. Always worth checking something like that before fitting. Were the spacers 350z specific or just spacers that they say fit a 350z if you get my drift. Got to be honest the spacers make the stance better but i dont like the idea and think wheels with a better offset to fill the arch is a better way to go. Like most things you get what you pay for Quote
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