Sgt Wilson Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Just seen the news, has anyone had problems? It's supposedly supplies from outside the UK and mostly supermarket petrol. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I heard that on News - they only mentioned Tesco but they probably all use the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wilson Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 I heard that on News - they only mentioned Tesco but they probably all use the same. True enough. Bit worrying. Thousands of motorists affected apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Inquiry into 'contaminated' fuel Ethanol content should be made clear Trading standards officials have launched an investigation after drivers complained that they had been sold "contaminated" fuel. Drivers from across south-east England believe they may have been sold petrol containing ethanol, which has damaged their cars. Their vehicles have been juddering, misfiring and had a loss of power. Independent oil company Greenergy said it was testing fuel supplied to Tesco and Morrisons to see if it was faulty. Trading standards said its officials were also testing a number of samples but had not yet had the results. Ian Hillier, a petroleum spokesman for the Trading Standards Institute, said: "I understand that there have been around 75-100 complaints from people in south-east England. "Including ethanol in petrol is not really contaminating it, but there has to be a clear warning to people who buy petrol as to exactly what is in it." Some drivers have said that they bought "contaminated" fuel from Tesco's and Morrisons. Tesco said its initial tests had not revealed any contamination, although it would continue to investigate the problem. A spokesman said: "As soon as we were alerted to a potential problem we carried out extensive tests on current and past batches of unleaded fuel, including from some of the affected vehicles, and so far have not discovered any abnormalities or contamination whatsoever." Oxygen sensors AA technical specialist Vanessa Guyll said drivers would notice problems with the running of their cars almost immediately, and providing they sought help quickly, it was unlikely the "contaminated" petrol would cause any long-term damage to engines. The RAC said the problem seemed to be particularly affecting the oxygen sensors in vehicles made by Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen and Mercedes. Christopher MacGowan of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders said thousands of motorists had been affected, most of whom had vehicles that were more than three-years-old. It started misfiring and juddering Jonathan Earl Motorist Drivers tell of fury More of your stories He said: "I think that we've got a corridor in east Anglia, London and the South East where somehow a dodgy batch of petrol has crept into the system." Most of the retailers and vehicle manufacturers were testing batches of petrol, said Mr Macgowan. He added: "In the context of over 28 million vehicles on the road, you have to keep it in proportion, but it is serious, and it's very very unpleasant for those several thousand drivers who've experienced this problem." Hundreds of drivers have also been contacting the BBC after filling up their cars with the allegedly contaminated fuel. Some car dealerships say they are trying to repair damaged cars, many of which are now off the road, but the parts they need are now in short supply. Compensation Motorist Darren Ross, 42, has complained to the Department of Trade and Industry about the problem. He buys petrol for his Saab convertible 1.8T at the Tesco superstore in Waltham Abbey, Essex, close to where he lives, and believes it led to his car breaking down. His local Saab dealership told him it was a fault with sensors and that they had had 15 other similar problems over the last week. Mr Ross said the repairs are costing him £200, which is not covered by his warranty because they are linked to a fuel fault. "I want compensation and reimbursement. I need my car for my work and it has been back to Saab four times in the last two weeks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wilson Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 That makes it clearer. Ta Beavis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winged Rodent Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Just another reason not to buy the cheap 'own brand' stuff from supermarkets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzzz... Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 but then again tesco don't make their own petrol do they? They buy it from the main petrol companies... so if they are getting dodgy fuel , who's selling it to them? I am sure Tescos are going to be very careful to not damage their image in this market as they are the underdogs... however MAYBE the major petrol companies (that sell the petrol to TESCOS) are feeling the pinch from lost sales ... specially the expensive stuff ULTIMATE, EXCELLIUM, etc. etc. etc, ... or maybe I've seen to many conspiracy theory films ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 but then again tesco don't make their own petrol do they? They buy it from the main petrol companies... so if they are getting dodgy fuel , who's selling it to them? I am sure Tescos are going to be very careful to not damage their image in this market as they are the underdogs... however MAYBE the major petrol companies (that sell the petrol to TESCOS) are feeling the pinch from lost sales ... specially the expensive stuff ULTIMATE, EXCELLIUM, etc. etc. etc, ... or maybe I've seen to many conspiracy theory films ... Interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 but then again tesco don't make their own petrol do they? They buy it from the main petrol companies... so if they are getting dodgy fuel , who's selling it to them? exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 the hi ron stuff that tesco gets is made by a premium company (think its Total) but it isn't the same mixture as BP Ulimate or Shell Optimax. Glad I have always sticked to Optimax, although can't remember it's name change it had recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl114 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I have just been told the most effected brands are: Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Ford, Honda, Vauxhall, Volvo. Causing the lambda sensors to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Glad I have always sticked to Optimax, although can't remember it's name change it had recently. V-Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickya Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 May originally be same fuel as other companies but later additives used by each company differs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoREoD Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Tesco by their 99 ron from Greenergy (see their website) who but it on the spot market, add a bit of their own stuff, and ship to most Tescos (and others) who do 99 ron. The affected supplies are suspected to come from Greenergy but it seems to be the normal unleaded that is affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I've run mine virtually exclusively on Sainsburys since I bought her with absolutely no problems at all. Interestingly though, years ago I used to have a Mk1 Astra and ran it for quite a while on Shell after a bit it was running like an absolute dog, switched to getting it from a supermarket and never had any problems whatsoever after that. Put me off Shell for a good long while tbh, although I do sometimes use the V-Power now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 The above are correct; BP and Shell do their refining here in the UK whereas Tesco (via Greenergy) buy it in already refined from areas like the baltic. It is subject (or should be) to extensive quality control testing before being put into the tanks in the petrol stations. One possible cause (and there are a few) is water 'held' in the petrol which is gradually released out over time which will damage cats and O2 sensors - all this should again be picked up by testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 A mate has had his Golf Engine light come on today after 4 days from filling up with Sainsburys petrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revsport Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 There are a few stations in my area that have stickers saying tested by the local council. They have been on for about 2 months so they must have knowen about a problem a while ago. Lew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 A mate has had his Golf Engine light come on today after 4 days from filling up with Sainsburys petrol. Was that Sainsburys on Regent Rd Mike? I filled up there on Sunday, haven't had any probs at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alscar Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Sainsburys fuel all is bought directly from BP... So Im not so sure its a supermarket own brand thing.. I think it will be only one supplier when it comes down to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 A mate has had his Golf Engine light come on today after 4 days from filling up with Sainsburys petrol. Was that Sainsburys on Regent Rd Mike? I filled up there on Sunday, haven't had any probs at all. Cheadle way I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Not sure if anyone here noticed this but they found the dodgy provider. http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-fuel_p3227,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoREoD Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Just a quick clarification. Different branches of supermarkets get fuel from different suppliers. You cant say Sainsburys get theirs from BP. Some stores may get them from BP, but others may be supplied from somewhere else. Its a geographic thing. Thats why more northerly Tescos dont have 99ron unleaded - Too far from Greenergy's distribution so Tesco source elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Thats why more northerly Tescos dont have 99ron unleaded - Too far from Greenergy's distribution so Tesco source elsewhere. My local Tesco in Glasgow has 99RON Do you mean like John O'Groats northerly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Thats why more northerly Tescos dont have 99ron unleaded - Too far from Greenergy's distribution so Tesco source elsewhere. My local Tesco in Glasgow has 99RON Do you mean like John O'Groats northerly? every little helps......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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