taras Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Working along side with Jamie at CW Racing to develop a proper front splitter. (Not a front lip) Universal for all cars as long as the front end if flat. (This can be achieved with a front lip added on) This is what we've come up with. Opinions pls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 i like the look of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BulletMagnet Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Guess we'll have to wait till an actual prototype has been made and mocked up to a 350Z to make a judgement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Guess we'll have to wait till an actual prototype has been made and mocked up to a 350Z to make a judgement I intend to make it universal out of PU and have the front edge wrapped in Carbon for aesthetic looks for: a: keeping cost low b: making the wheel arch depth trim-able for universal car fitting c: Durability because PU won't smash into bits. Most of our clients are the guys in the celica clubs and races in TSS so it'll probably be seen there before it's it's seen fitted to a Z unless we have some track users here who are really interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I'd be very interested if that could direct air to the rad and the brakes on each side. Like funnel air through to it. Maybe even try and incorporate the following downforce setup? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6U2J ... cs_010.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 yes I'm still looking for some adjustable link rods for the overhang as added support. As the the canards, well lets just say that's a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
introspect Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 This looks very interesting. Will there be access to the oil filter when this is in place as per the Z Speed Aluminium under trays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Just need that elusive front bumper from RTP to stick it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 If you can make this a cheaper alternative to the undertray then your onto a winner IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 think I need some canards and a massive wing in the rear on mine now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 If you can make this a cheaper alternative to the undertray then your onto a winner IMO. We are aiming to be cheaper than other aftermarket front splitters in the market for sure in order for this to work but in the mean time it's still in the R&D Stage. Some input from another forum is that the Evo's have channeled air directing to the calipers for extra cooling as a secondary function. Something we're looking at replicating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Sort that out and ill get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruddles Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Sort that out and ill get one +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
introspect Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 This looks very interesting. Will there be access to the oil filter when this is in place as per the Z Speed Aluminium under trays? ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 This looks very interesting. Will there be access to the oil filter when this is in place as per the Z Speed Aluminium under trays? I would say no. The intention of making it universal would mean we're aiming not to make it car specific and the more simpler we can keep it the lower the cost of production can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 This looks very interesting. Will there be access to the oil filter when this is in place as per the Z Speed Aluminium under trays? I would say no. The intention of making it universal would mean we're aiming not to make it car specific and the more simpler we can keep it the lower the cost of production can be. hmmm I just got a z speed alu tray lol maybe just make it 'shorter' and be able to sit on top of say oem panel and the likes of the z speed alu tray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 This looks very interesting. Will there be access to the oil filter when this is in place as per the Z Speed Aluminium under trays? I would say no. The intention of making it universal would mean we're aiming not to make it car specific and the more simpler we can keep it the lower the cost of production can be. hmmm I just got a z speed alu tray lol maybe just make it 'shorter' and be able to sit on top of say oem panel and the likes of the z speed alu tray? Not quite sure what mean? You have a alu Z tray which you want to cut in half and seat it over the stock under panels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 This looks very interesting. Will there be access to the oil filter when this is in place as per the Z Speed Aluminium under trays? I would say no. The intention of making it universal would mean we're aiming not to make it car specific and the more simpler we can keep it the lower the cost of production can be. hmmm I just got a z speed alu tray lol maybe just make it 'shorter' and be able to sit on top of say oem panel and the likes of the z speed alu tray? Not quite sure what mean? You have a alu Z tray which you want to cut in half and seat it over the stock under panels? I'll draw something up and post it in here. In text> The version that you posted looks like it'll replace the current OEM under-tray (or Z speed for that matter) and I was just tinkering with the idea of having something that can sit under the OEM or Zspeed undertray, using that material to attach to the car + more for obvious reasons, and have channels leading to the brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 having epic fail moments using gimp2 to try and visualize what I'm talking about. hoping the text is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 having epic fail moments using gimp2 to try and visualize what I'm talking about. hoping the text is good enough. read it twice and I gotcha. The thing is, if you're going to fit a front under splitter which covers the ender side, why would you want to keep the stock tray anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 having epic fail moments using gimp2 to try and visualize what I'm talking about. hoping the text is good enough. read it twice and I gotcha. The thing is, if you're going to fit a front under splitter which covers the ender side, why would you want to keep the stock tray anyway? Would want to keep the z speed one. The original one i would dump. You would save on material cost too. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 here's a mini write up from CW racing after various simulations from everyone's input. Design 1. simply a flat plate. Produced some down force. Would be the most easy to produce and fit. Design Design 2. similar to design 1 but with an angled tail. Produced approximately 2x the down force of design 1 and with the benefit of drag being reduced by 1/2. Design 3. a very complicated design which was influenced by comments from members on forums. The piece would be very complicated to make and mount due to its shape. It does however produce over 4x the down force of design 1. negative point though is it also produces 3x the drag. Design 4. a design that id a hybrid of design 1 & 3. not the simplest to make but much easier than design 3 and should be simpler to fit. It produces 3x the down force of design 1 and only a fraction more drag. Design 1. CFD shows quite simple flow due to its simple design. The swirly bit behind the wheel is the wake from the tyre. Design 2. bit more going on. More lower pressure under the car as there is much more blue. Also selected flow lines through the rotating wheel. You can see how the wheel pumps the air out like a jet. Design 3. lots of 3d flow on this one. You can still see the swirly bit behind the wheel. Also areas where the flow separates away from the strakes in the channel. Also an area in front of the tyre. Design 4. Lots more laminar flow. Still with the wake behind the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 That's quite interesting. So if I've read that right design 4 is best for down-force, and 2 is best for drag reduction and brake cooling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 like the design of 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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