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Hi All,

 

Wanted to get some advice on some alignment issues that I have been having. Have read a few of threads on here which have supported previous work, but issue still persists.

 

Symptoms

> Car can be aligned properly in spec

> Car feels tight and tracks well for first 50 or so miles

> After this time alignment seems to fall out (see images) 

> Car pulls to the left and requires correction to be straight

> Under braking can feel pull more

> When moving from standstill feels like slip from the front

> Road noise is higher than it should be

> Steering is not as tight as post alignment

> Slight clunk/rattle from front nearside over bumps (once not constant)

 

What has been done

> Car has been checked over by a reputable garage several times

> Replacement parts: rear adjustable camber arms, new rear toe bolts, front lower control arm, front upper control arm, tie rod ends, wheel bearings

> Aligned each time parts changed

> When purchased observed that banana arm had been replaced before

> New brakes, calipers also fitted

 

Alignment print outs

I have attached two. After my LCA was changed the car toed out at the front to the right which counteracted the predominant left pull. Upon realigning the car after it settled the left pull is now back, so I would presume it is similar to the second print out below where the front toe is out to the left. I have also noticed that the rear left camber is out on both before print outs and the front camber is slightly out since the LCA was fitted.

 

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Help!

Obviously this could be a variety of issues at once, as you are aware all of this is not too cheap and it detracts from my enjoyment of the car! 

 

Wanted to guage your thoughts on this and/or the best methods to resolve from experience.

 

My gut is telling me it is banana arm related, but have also thought it could be the wheel spindle being bent, top mounts or a bent rear upper control arm?!

 

Any help on this would be appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

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Get someone who can actually do an alignment would be my advice. Both of those after measurements are a mile out, no reason they shouldn’t be equal either side if you’ve had new parts put on tbh. 
 

Also bear in mind that every road in the UK cambers slightly to the left anyway for drainage purposes, you can test this by driving on the other side of the road and letting go, see if the car drifts right then. 

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Go to an alignment specialist and ask them to check over your complete suspension, steering, hubs and bearings etc.and only then. get a 4 wheel alignment done.

Best avoid the fast fit tyre guys and go to a specialist who understands geometry set ups.

Sounds like a lot of expensive guess work has been going on..

Where are you based?

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13 hours ago, kemmel88 said:

Hi All,

 

Wanted to get some advice on some alignment issues that I have been having. Have read a few of threads on here which have supported previous work, but issue still persists.

 

Symptoms

> Car can be aligned properly in spec

> Car feels tight and tracks well for first 50 or so miles

> After this time alignment seems to fall out (see images) 

> Car pulls to the left and requires correction to be straight

> Under braking can feel pull more

> When moving from standstill feels like slip from the front

> Road noise is higher than it should be

> Steering is not as tight as post alignment

> Slight clunk/rattle from front nearside over bumps (once not constant)

 

What has been done

> Car has been checked over by a reputable garage several times

> Replacement parts: rear adjustable camber arms, new rear toe bolts, front lower control arm, front upper control arm, tie rod ends, wheel bearings

> Aligned each time parts changed

> When purchased observed that banana arm had been replaced before

> New brakes, calipers also fitted

 

Alignment print outs

I have attached two. After my LCA was changed the car toed out at the front to the right which counteracted the predominant left pull. Upon realigning the car after it settled the left pull is now back, so I would presume it is similar to the second print out below where the front toe is out to the left. I have also noticed that the rear left camber is out on both before print outs and the front camber is slightly out since the LCA was fitted.

 

15716979557123072431781496805563.jpg.2ae11fc5b766dccb7091c983004feebd.jpg

15716978661122182532221198879262.jpg.d6dddaf27e16392fafd4b010e771d9bf.jpg

 

Help!

Obviously this could be a variety of issues at once, as you are aware all of this is not too cheap and it detracts from my enjoyment of the car! 

 

Wanted to guage your thoughts on this and/or the best methods to resolve from experience.

 

My gut is telling me it is banana arm related, but have also thought it could be the wheel spindle being bent, top mounts or a bent rear upper control arm?!

 

Any help on this would be appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

really just needs someone that understand hid Hunter Alignment machine

 

2 main things I can see that would worry me is

 

1,  steer ahead on the front axle is at 0-08 mins

2, these is an announced re thrust angle

 

The difference in rear camber I feel wont cause the pulling to the left

 

If you can find a dead flat piece of black stuff I presume the steering wheel inst level when driving in a straight line.

 

Where are you based in the UK please

 

 

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Thanks all for your guidance so far.

 

I am based in Rugby, so Midlands specialists would be ideal if any of you could recommend?

 

As a few responses:

> The car does camber the other way slightly on the other side of the road but does not track straight on smooth flat straight tarmac

> The upper control arm was in spec until my last changes/shop visit and the left pull was still present, you can see this on the second print out.

 

I hope to get this resolved as it is driving me crazy and detracting from discussions about superchargers and the like :hypocrite:

 

Cheers

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4 hours ago, kemmel88 said:

Thanks all for your guidance so far.

 

I am based in Rugby, so Midlands specialists would be ideal if any of you could recommend?

 

As a few responses:

> The car does camber the other way slightly on the other side of the road but does not track straight on smooth flat straight tarmac

> The upper control arm was in spec until my last changes/shop visit and the left pull was still present, you can see this on the second print out.

 

I hope to get this resolved as it is driving me crazy and detracting from discussions about superchargers and the like :hypocrite:

 

Cheers

Go to centre gravity in atherstone mate 

Not cheap but worth ever penny 

They are proper suspension guys they dont do anything else 

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