There's no question imo that the Cayenne and the Cayman were products of the marketing department, but is that a bad thing? The end product from manufacturers such as Porsche is usually a compromise between what engineering wants to do, what design can accomodate and what marketing believes the punter wants. Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of the Cayenne, but with both BMW and Mercedes producing 4x4s, Porche could'nt afford to ignore that sector of the market. The Cayman however is a different kettle of fish imo. Apart from the price, I'm a hugh fan. It has already been admitted by Porsche that if they were to fit an LSD, the Cayman would be capable of lapping most circuits faster than the 911. This is a good example of why marketing need to keep a reign on what engineering are doing if they are not to shoot themselves in the foot through technical excellence.