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Not the thread I was referring to, but that would do it.

Common sense is so uncommon these days, it should be considered a superpower! Based on a fairly recent thread on here, I think it's clear what the reason for all these failures is... warming the engine up whilst stationary.

No, no you're not.

I've not tried that combination myself, but I'm fairly certain they would work well together.

For the same reason they do "colour charged" wax; marketing largely. It depends on the combination of products and the type of bond (i.e. physical or chemical bond). Certain products are designed to bond well specifically with each other - the Acrylic system for example, Jett will bond better to Prime but won't bond with BH, so using BH under Prime (or Jett) would see that layer just wash off effectively. The likes of BH & WD are designed offer a good bond to wax which itself protects the glaze. True glazes (as opposed to AIO) do offer very little, if any, protection themselves which is why it's best to seal with wax (or sealant) - BH will only last a couple of days at best if not sealed.

^^^ That. I've gone with Admiral this year (through Compare The Market) and they've done nothing but d*ck me around since the cover started. The entire Admiral group are now added to my sh*t list and I won't go near them again regardless of how good their quotes appear to be.

As above, Haydn, BH adds depth to the paint which brings out the flake quite well, especially when topped with Natty's wax. Not quite as well as some sealants, the Werkstat Acrylic system for example, but BH certainly enhances the 'pop'.

Good luck with the job hunting, Downhuman, I hope land on your feet mate. If the worst comes to the worst, you could always start up a detailing business. If DW's taught me anything (other than how to spend all my money), it's that you only need a bottle of SRP and a microfibre to do that for a living... The Waxybox waxes have been getting better, which I suppose is the point of them really considering it's a development wax, but I've never been a fan of wet on/wet off waxes and I found these to be a bit too grabby when buffing for the soft Nissan paint for my liking - I've been meaning to try them on harder paint actually, so I might do that with the Anniversary wax as I got some of that in the Xmas box. I do always try them on something, usually my laptop or similar, but they rarely make it onto my car and when they do it's only small patches because I just can't be a*sed killing myself to buff them off larger areas.

I really my Poorboys stuff too. Super Slick & Suds is a brilliant shampoo, it's the only one I keep going back to. The Natty's waxes with Black Hole or White Diamond give a lovely wet look on most paint and the waxes last a fair while, especially for the price.

Never! I just have too few cars to use them on.

Sadly for me, other people testing things just gives me ideas. Costs me a fortune on too many products.

Quite possibly one of those two digits, but not both of them.

Well for the benefit of anyone who cares (and to save GMballistic some time/expense of experimenting ), I've been playing again. Firstly, a week or two after the first post I washed the car again and the sheeting behaviour has changed - namely the sections topped with C2 are now sheeting at the same rate as each other again with FK sheeting slightly slower. It dawned on me that the only change in my wash routine was the shampoo used. First time round I used Chemical Guys Mr Pink, which I've since realised does contain gloss enhancers so this could well have been affecting the water behaviour. I've since used G|Technique G Wash and Car Chem Tailor Made (which don't leave anything behind) and the sheeting's much more uniform between the panels topped with C2 and those now topped with FK. Secondly, I've also topped up several panels using diluted C2 (roughly 3:2 - I simply topped up the remaining ~20ml in the Waxybox sample with de-ionised water to make ~50ml) and using it as a QD. That was 5 weeks ago now and two coats give a much slicker finish than just the one, it's also easier to apply the second coat too (not that applying the first is not easy of course) and those panels with two coats of C2 on are staying cleaner and sheet water quicker than those with just the one coat. I've had to resort to doing productive things on a weekend because the car just doesn't need cleaning as much and even when it does, it doesn't take as long any more. Thirdly, I've been playing with waxes on top of C2 on the roof. I tapped off several sections so each section is separated by bare C2 to make it easier to see the difference in water behaviour and finish. I applied Angelwax Desirable, Poorboys Natty's white, FK1000P, and three Waxybox waxes - May's #008, the Anniversary wax and the Halloween wax. The latter three lasted 2, 3 and 3 weeks (give or take a couple of days) respectively before disappearing to nothingness, Desirable and the Natty's are just about hanging in there and FK1000P is still going strong 5 weeks later. Finally, I accidentally left an open pot of Waxybox wax on top of a radiator - I got distracted by something shiny. As soon as the heating was switched on, it did a good job of making the whole room smell of the wax... luckily it was one of the nicer scented waxes (it was the winter wax blend, #006, I think in case you're interested), so I left it there. It's still making the room smell very pleasant indeed, weeks after the other waxes have failed on the paintwork. So to summarise; know your shampoos before blaming the LSP, use 2 coats of C2, C2 plays well with other LSPs and previous Waxybox waxes make better air fresheners than they do waxes.

I'll go along with that.

It depends what you want from it? Looks, durability, ease of use, budget, etc. It's an okay wax, but there are better things out there in my opinion. Colli (as already mentioned) or FK1000P will offer more durability, some sealants will offer more still (and then there's coatings!). Dodo Juice or Poorboys will be easier to apply but will need topping up/reapplying more often. Sealants will give better gloss, waxes will give more warmth and depth (as a generalisation).

The price of petrol's really shot up recently...

You say; I hear; So come on then, what's the plan for this one in terms of mods?

Just the colour and the scent - blue one's bubblegum scented, the red one is strawberry scented. I wanted to try all the colour and scent combinations, but was told to use what I have first.

Mine arrived a few days ago but been to busy to show off my unimaginative shampoo naming (or perhaps just inadvertent name pilfering) skills until now;

Well if grease isn't a good idea, how about covering the face of the disc in super-glue before leaving the car to stand instead?

Excellent, so I'll be able to borrow it for the day as a courtesy car then, right?

I'm glad you took that 350, otherwise my next service with you would have been so much more expensive for me! Are you going to be hiding the new one away for winter, or might I actually get to see this one in the flesh when I come down?

Unless they don't agree with me. Obviously.