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What in the world is happening My next door neighbour on LBC: https://audioboom.com/boos/4757039-german-immigrant-s-heartbreaking-call-to-james-in-full We moved from there last year in December, but a very nice quiet area. Then this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/polish-girl-dagmara-prybysz-who-complained-of-classroom-racism-is-found-dead-at-school-in-cornwall-a7037771.html and this: http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-28/halal-butchers-targeted-in-petrol-bomb-attack/ Another Romanian lady friend married with an English guy had their bakery and farm set on fire, next night they had their car vandalised, all glass broken. Not trying to exaggerate or being alarmist, but what is this country becoming? Other videos on Channel 4, too: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153850480776939&id=6622931938 https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153853027841939&id=6622931938

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A different view on "lost, just get on with it, stop moaning": "There is something I need to say. it will be a long post. Some of my friends might be offended, that is not my intention. But I need to say this. Please read it, even if you don't read my other EU posts. Since the referendum result, it has been a much repeated statement that those of us still talking about the referendum should just shut up. Some people are polite and blindly optimistic, saying 'let's focus on what unites us, let's work together'. Other people are offensive, calling Remain voters bad losers, or worse. I need to tell you why I cannot - will not - be silenced on this. Why working together seems so difficult today. A common thread seems to be 'we're all allowed an opinion, let us have our opinion and stop arguing about it, accept that some people don't agree with you and those people won.' Yes, you are allowed an opinion. You can form an opinion about whatever in the world you want to and I fully respect your right to that. You can have an opinion that the sky is purple with yellow spots if you want. However, if I asked you to bet your livelihood and future, and that of all the people around you, on whether your opinion of the sky is right, I would at least expect you to look up to check your facts are right. When you found the sky was, in fact, blue, I would expect you to respond accordingly. Sometimes there is a right answer and a wrong answer. Sometimes we cannot agree to disagree, however nice the sentiment is. Too many people have voiced the sentiment - 'I have a right to an opinion even though I don't really understand the EU or politics, so just leave me alone and stop challenging me.' You had a right to that opinion. But before you cast a vote, you had the responsibility to back that opinion up with fact. To at least start to understand what you were voting on. There was an awful lot of information out there during the debate. If you voted without really understanding the facts then I have every right to challenge you and I won't stop just because it makes you uncomfortable. This is far, far too important. All those people Googling what the EU means on the 24th June, or telling us all how they didn't really understand, just had a 'feeling' which way to vote should all be ashamed. I will also address the idea that we don't like having 'lost'. I could not care less, this isn't a tennis match and I never saw it as 'winning or losing'. I saw it as fighting for the future, for hope, for diversity and tolerance. I saw it as making a decision that wasn't inward-looking and selfish, as being part of the modern world. 75% of the younger people of this country also had this vision for the future. I don't feel that I have lost a game. I feel that our whole country has been betrayed, destroyed (in the sense that the UK will disintegrate) and lost any respect in the eyes of the world. We have all lost the benefits of EU citizenship, even those of us who wanted to keep it. We have voted to be left on our little rock, all alone. All the values of 'Britishness' I identified with have been undermined. I do not feel any common ground with the vocal parts of the Leave campaign. Not because they 'won' and we 'lost' but because I simply do not have that mindset and I find most of what they have said to be offensive. The whole world has 'lost' after this referendum. I do not want to tar all Leave voters with the same brush. I respect that there were individual people who made decisions based on thoughtful points of view. In my next words, I'm not saying all Leave voters are the same. Nor are all Remain voters automatically good people. However. I campaigned on the streets, I read article after article, I engaged in endless social media conversations. I know the tone of this debate. And the Leave side employed anti-immigrant and racist rhetoric. Many Leave voters voted because they wanted to restrict freedom of movement. I know because they told me, often aggressively. And, today, I've heard from migrant and British ethnic minority friends that they feel threatened and unwelcome in this country. They are worried to leave the house. They have seen that half of the country are willing to ally themselves with a racist and anti-immigrant campaign, even if they do not feel that way themselves. That is not a situation in which we can just keep quiet and find a way to work together. I don't think all leave voters are racists but I fear that the racists now feel legitimacy, that they think half the country agrees with them. I have already heard this expressed on social media. 'The majority have spoken, that's democracy', I've been told. But is it? Have they? The Scots don't think so, for a start. Do we have a country in which an angry majority can trample over the rights and wishes of a minority? That's a little scary. This referendum campaign was full of lies (yes, on both sides, but more of them on the Leave side, as the media is finally acknowledging) and many, many people voted with no knowledge of what they were voting on. For so many, if it wasn't about immigration, it was a protest vote against the Conservatives or against politics and politicians in general. The majority haven't actually spoken about the EU, they've expressed anger on all kinds of issues. None of this seems like a good basis for a decision that will throw us into recession and isolation, that will strip our young people of the right to live, work and study abroad, will affect every aspect of our lives. It was an irresponsible referendum because it had no regulations relating to what level of turnout or majority would give it legitimacy. I have resisted signing the petition for a new referendum so far because I want to be seen to be respecting the democratic decision. But I am beginning to see it as far from democratic or representative. And with so many of the Leave voters now saying they would change their vote if they could, what would the result of a referendum today actually be? Maybe we should find out before we think about triggering Article 50 and actually leaving the EU. Can we really let this decision stand after such a shabby campaign and with a small majority result? This is why I am proud of the Lib Dem stance to challenge the referendum and fight to stay in the EU at the next General Election. There is an awful lot more I could say. But I will end with this. I am shocked, frightened and horrified by this. By the divisions in the country and by the outcome of the referendum. I feel alienated from a country I have always been proud of, in a liberal non-nationalistic sense. I have friends who feel even worse because they're migrants or minorities. Virtually the entire population of the world thinks we've lost our minds. We've become an inspiration for the French far right, for the Texas Tea Party movement and congratulated by Donald Trump. American and European friends are writing to me to express sympathy and disbelief that we could do this. I need to talk about this personally because I am mourning and talking helps. Don't you dare tell me to shut up if your vote is part of the reason I feel this way today. Block me if you don't care, but don't silence me. If you are not talking about this, you do not understand how important this is. You have underestimated the impact. Not just on the economy or trade or freedom of movement. But on society, ideology, the heart and soul of this nation. On the whole world. If you are not still talking about this, you are irresponsible, in my eyes. This conversation is one of the most important in the nation's history. It will define who we are for generations to come. But hey, you have your opinion don't you? And it sound lovely to say we should all just get along. Sounds like you're rising above it all. This will affect you too. And then you might be glad that some of us are talking about what it means. I am the 48% #WeAreThe48" Rebecca S Buck

"English could be banned as an official language of the EU after Brexit despite being the most spoken in Europe, an official has admitted. Although it is the main working tongue of European Union institutions, it might be dropped when Britain leaves the bloc - further reducing the UK's influence on the continent. Each member state has the right to nominate a primary language in Brussels, but no state other than Britain has registered English." http://tgr.ph/x6bURh I don't want to imagine the treatment we'll get abroad in EU, when on holiday, after leaving EU, for not being able to speak the local language and addressing in English like use to do Time to learn Spanish, French, Italian etc

I haven't experienced any xenophobia first hand so far while I've been in UK for 15 years on Thursday, but what I'm seeing lately leaves me with a very bitter taste. Here one example:

I'm not saying it should or it shouldn't, just saying it is going to happen. FT is a very influential paper in both politics and financial world, it's on the front page today. Cameroon is in Brussel, there will be more concessions from EU and we will have a re-run based on the new terms. A lot of LEAVE highly prominent figures are also saying this is very possible. Radio and TV journalists and analysts are slowly introducing the concept in the debates. Markets are also seeing this as a huge opportunity and advise investors to buy UK stocks after such a big sell off, making money twice Let's see how this unfolds.

There will be a second referendum.

So they dug his vote card out? Isn't that "a bit" illegal? I bet it's going to be in Daily Mail, so it must be true!

Speaking of sterling: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/british-pound-could-hit-history-making-dollar-parity-by-end-of-2016-2016-06-27

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36644934

Heard Kelvin MacKenzie on LBC about 90 minutes go while driving... Play the sound clip. http://www.lbc.co.uk/kelvin-mackenzie-on-why-he-regrets-voting-leave-132941

Seems like the Germans are not making it easy for UK, helping Scotland An independent Scotland would be welcome to join the European Union, a senior German lawmaker and ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel has said after Britain's vote to leave the bloc. "The EU will still consist of 28 member states, as I expect a new independence referendum in Scotland, which will then be successful," said Gunther Krichbaum, a member of Merkel's conservatives and chairman of the European affairs committee in parliament. "We should respond quickly to an application for admission from the EU-friendly country," he told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZC0QT

I have no doubts in you, Haydn, nor in any other person on this forum. You've seen the examples everyone posted here with people not having a clue what's to follow.

Trading in Barclays and RBS shares was suspended on Monday morning following heavy losses on the London Stock Exchange. Barclays share price was down 10.3 per cent and RBS was down 15 per cent o Monday, triggering automatic circuit breakers that kick in when a share price falls more than 8 per cent. Barclays was trading at 138.95p, down 9.76 per cent, while RBS was trading at 178.14p, down 13.30 per cent in mid-morning trade. Lloyds was down 8.91 per cent at 51.88p, after falling more than 20 per cent on Monday. RBS shares have lost £10 billion in their market value since Thursday, or more than the net contribution of the UK to the EU in 2015, which was estimated to be about £8.5 billion. The net contribution is the difference between what the UK paid to the EU and what it got back in spending in the UK. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/barclays-rbs-halts-trading-eu-referendum-brexit-ftse-100-stock-market-a7105196.html Meanwhile: Boris Johnson has boasted "the markets are stable" - just as trading in publicly owned RBS was briefly suspended after a 14.5% drop. http://news.sky.com/story/1717965/boris-insists-pound-and-markets-are-stable