Tricky-Ricky

Not a Z owner yet! but my daughter keeps threatening me with the grandfather badge, and i'm only 57, its not fair i tell you, especially when your brain keeps telling you that you're 35

Indeedy, two years ago lol, as Supra spends its life in the garage and and GTR is a bit precious to take out in this weather Have you still got your Supra? LOL! thought it was a new acquisition, yes still have the Supra, if it doesn't go in the next couple of months, i will probably keep it for another year and play around with it some more, but try not to spend much money on it.

A lot of big power GTRs and Supras are getting grabbed by dealers from Europe, due to price drops/recession, and then sold at a hefty profit, Had some cheeky sod string me along the other week making out he was really interested in my Supra, asked for loads of pics, and then made me a silly offer, when i tolled him to take a jump, it turned out he was a dealer in Germany, its not like i hadn't told him my best price, its happening more and more on car forums.

Hi Ernie Bought yourself a 350Z then.

LOL! Thanks! The turbo kicking in and catching people out, is mainly the std or BPU twin turbo, they can make positive boost as low as 1,500 RPM, it doesn't really happen with a single turbo, unless you have a lead right foot All the GTRs have four wheel drive, but its like an early version of the proportional system that Mitsubishi use on the Lancers, in that it only sends around 30-40% of the power to the front wheels, which is why they have such great levels of grip.

Yes build quality is better, and i agree about a supercharged Z its funny that a lot of Z owners seem to aspire to an R34GTR Skyline, but after driving R32 and R33 (not 34) i went for the Supra. The reason being they are way too expensive to make quick, and they are just too easy to drive near the limit, takes all the fun out of it On the other hand it takes a certain amount of skill to do the same with the Supra, as you have already found that out (no offence intended)

New years bump, Just found a post my BB with somebody wanting a deal with a 350Z to a Supra, and i missed it so you never know.

Nice car, if i manage to sell my Supra soon I'll give you a shout.

Whats with the torque calibration in that graph?

Or a Nissan made by the French

I'm not sure I understand that, but I do know that almost all of us with imports have either had to install a delimiter ourselves or make do with the 112 mph limit, just as Sarnie said. It is definitely not part of the SVA for the car. I think you misunderstand me with regard to SVA and delimiting, it was somebody else that thought it was done at the same time IE part of. I merely said that most importers will, and do SVA imports when needed and before sale, and that the one i had dealt with had made sure that the vehicle was delimited and speed converted, not that it was all part and parcel of the same process.

I think its all down to the quality of service provided by the importers, my last one took care of everything. I think the HKS and other delimiter/converter, intercepts the signal from the ECU to the speedo, and modifies that, but the speed limiter is a function of the ECU, but this also can be intercepted and modified pre ECU.

The speed limiter removal is not part of the sva. You need to buy a HKS defender for about £250. Thats i bit pricey, you can buy a converter/delimiter from Thor in the UK for about £100 (there are some cheaper versions) also most importers that sell in the UK will have already put the car through an SVA before offering for sale. The delimiters by Thor, are they for Supra's though? Here is the HKS one on Envys site: http://z-store.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseacti ... rentCat=26 Not sure what your point about the importers is though.....of course most will have sva'd the car......my point was that removing the limit is not part of the sva.... Sorry was thinking of Supra wen i mentioned Thor for delimiter, but there are much cheaper delimiters available, edited my other post now, what i meant was that most importers will have also delimited the car as well as SVAing before sale in the UK.

How does it affect torque Mark? I think most of us on the here go for the thrill of acceleration on the road (attributable to torque AFAIK) rather than top speed (where you need HP). I'm not trying to be clever but I just wondered if that's the reason why we daily drivers don't notice an appreciable difference with the higher octane fuel. As BHP is calculated through torque produced, any drop in BHP will inevitably be due to a drop in torque, however at lower RPM it will not be as noticeable due to the larger motors higher reciprocating mass etc, if it was a 1.6 or 2lt it would be much more noticeable.

The speed limiter removal is not part of the sva. You need to buy a HKS defender for about £250. Edited: Thats i bit pricey, you can buy a converter/delimiter from Thor in the UK for about £100 (there are some cheaper versions) also most importers that sell in the UK will have already put the car through an SVA and delimited the car before offering for sale.

................... mine looks like this one, http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1299952.htm Sorry wasn't paying attention I think you will stand more of a chance of a deal with the Evo than i will with my Supra

I imagine that the ECU in the import is capable of switching maps if it is continually fed with 95 RON, it will just keep pulling timing until its forced to use a default map by the det sensors going all the time. It probably will feel better in slow stop start traffic because it will be running retarded ignition timing, but it will not do much for the high RPM band.

Pistonheads add says its now sold?

The reason i remarked on the UK and fuel is due to it having widband lambda, and so should have no problems with lower grade petrol unlike the import which will be mapped for 100 RON. I also agree with the comments about BP ultimate, i have noticed better fuel figures even with my Supra So far from reading and comments i have gleaned that although the JDM model is in basic form less speced than the UK, however as with most Japanese import cars, they can come in almost any trim level that the UK can, and sometimes some nice things that the UKs don't.

Just wondering other than the obvious suspension and ECU differences, are there any others to bare in mind when looking with a view to buying? I presume the import will require 98-99 RON fuel and the UK can cope with 95 RON fine? and i also presume the import will be more expensive to insure, average costs for insurance or a link would be helpful

That's exactly why I wouldn't buy an ex demonstrator Not sure i would agree with that, how many sales guys do you know that will sit there and say nothing while you cheerfully hang the ass end out around bends, and bounce it off the rev limiter? My comparison is to the Supra clutch, which is a much has a much more refined feel,and also tailored by me for position and comfort don't forget that the Supra when new was nearly 50K when it first came out in 93-4 so buy todays standards it would be equivalent to 100K

Don't know how old your daughter is, but at least there is a rear seat (just) in the 370Z, i don't have to worry as my daughter is grown up with a car of her own If you can afford it i would go for the 370Z, i could not justify going for a new car as i just don't use it enough. I was surprised that the GTR demo was 10K cheaper with 8K on the clock.

My Supra replacement as i have already mentioned is likely to be a Nissan 350Z, so Wednesday i finally got a chance to try one at i relatively local Nissan dealer, took long enough to find one locally unfortunately not a long or fast test drive due to the weather and the shear traffic density. But the overall impression was very good, nice driving position, good steering feedback, felt pretty sure footed, although i would have liked to kane it some more, the engine feels pretty strong with good torque, very similar in characteristics to N/A or single turbo Supra off boost, but i would say definitely quicker (well it should be with more power/torque than an N/A) 220BHP Brakes where very strong, and very quick to bite, unlike the Supra which is strong but very progressive, clutch was a bit long travel as heavier than an uprated Supra clutch, but I'm sure it can be adjusted, as I'm sure can the brakes,and surprisingly the gearbox feels very similar the the Supra, but the overall feel is unfortunately far less refined than the Supra, ans also the build quality is no match either, however as i want to slow myself down and try and save a little more on petrol, i think it may be the replacement i need with the price of petrol going the way it is now Very nearly committed to 49K worth of ex demo GTR, after drooling over it for a while big car though, longer and wider than a Supra, and a fair bit heavier, but comparable on the build quality as i would expect, also had a look at the 370Z, which was also better build quality than the 350Z.

Thanks for the info had a quick look at the Uprev system (Osiris Tuner), looks pretty good, but i notice that its only licenced for the one ECU, also doesn't include some of the more advanced controls for things like temp based timing and fuel control, or individual cylinder adjustment, and also couldn't find anything about adding your own choice of injectors or custom MFA, or MAP should you want to go F/I. Think i would prefer the EMU or even a MAP2, and coupled with something like the LM-2 which will also read OBD2 besides wideband O2 and logging, should work just as well on the 350Z as the LM-1 has on my Supra. But for me its the more hands on the better, however i can see the usefulness and attraction of the Osiris Tuner.

Yes just looked at a 2006 manual and its wideband, so anything US or UK is likely to be a PITA to do anything with the ECU then, did the JDM ever change to wideband after a certain year?