When u eat foods to get natural protein intake you're eating alot of salts, saturates etc with a protein shake it's lean with lots if ur amino acids etc that are missed through food. My diet consisted if chicken, tuna and salmon, no bread and about a fifth of daily saturate allowance. I trained hard and I'm only 5'10 an was weighing over 15 stone with low bodyfat. I looked immense and I can guarantee to get like that without supplements I would have been eating ridiculous amounts of meat.
It depends which way u wanna look, big and bulky, small and lean. Too totally different methods of training.
Right now I've not trained in about 4 months but wen I go bk I will pull bk my shape very quickly.
Has anyone used any steroids? What's ur experiences been like?