Digsy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 OK, one of my possible scenarios is to run a sleeper for a little while. The problem I have is that the Liverpool suburbs are not a great place to leave a fancy motor on the street. I used to keep the Zed in the yard but it took up about half of my outdoor space and when the dog came I had to have a rethink. Sticking it in a garage a few miles away was OK but I couldn't "pop out for a drive" when the mood took me like I could before and the Zed just sat there for weeks on end. So, Im thinking what could I run and leave on the street which to the casual observer is nothing special (and therefore shouldn't attract scroats or nutjobs with baseball bats who knock down the front door in the night) but would still be a bit of fun to drive. A Q-car I suppose. It would have to be under 10k secondhand or new so that I could lease it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilsheepshagga_turbo Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 how's about dc2 or the last gen civic type r? both will be a hoot and don't really attract that much attention. clio 182? octavia vrs 2? -ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8 JPE Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 id go for an old saphire cosy, vauxhall senetor or a carlton gsi. all are great fun and quick and to be fair at the money you can get these for who cares if they get a bit of a bump. we did the scumball rally in a cartlon gsi and it was quicker than most things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Mk4 Golf V6 4Motion, in black. They're about 6.5k now for a good example, and the black Recaro's are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 how's about dc2 or the last gen civic type r? both will be a hoot and don't really attract that much attention. clio 182? octavia vrs 2? -ho Don't like the DC2s or last gen Civics - but love DC5s and current gen Civics! Hey, that's just me. Thought about a 182 but would prefer a 197 (with Cup chassis in white). A mate has the Skoda and its great but Mrs Digsy won't get over the badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 id go for an old saphire cosy, vauxhall senetor or a carlton gsi. all are great fun and quick and to be fair at the money you can get these for who cares if they get a bit of a bump. we did the scumball rally in a cartlon gsi and it was quicker than most things Interesting ideas but not quite the image I'm after and a bit old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Mk4 Golf V6 4Motion, in black. They're about 6.5k now for a good example, and the black Recaro's are This is a good call but the 4th gen Golf's don't really handle I believe and most seem to come with some of the worst wood inserts on the dash that I've seen for a while. I fancy an R32 as they're going for a song now, are almost as fast as the Zed and have a classy, low key image without being a default Bee Emm/Audi/Merc. But may still be a bit ostentatious for our street and insurance is pretty heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 old school: audi quattro vw corrado 306 gti6 (excellent fun) proper mini (tuned to the nines)not bmw mini mr2 roadster (can fit hard top) new school: bmw 1 series 135 or the coupe version bmw 3 series coupe audi s3 golf r32 (debadge to remove the r32 bit) new civic type R (very good security) new corsa, astra vxr (get over the badge, its a real hooners car) this is all i can think of for the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomfry Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 How about an audi s4. 2.7 twin turbo and 4wd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 bmw 1 series 135 or the coupe version bmw 3 series coupe These babies scream "key me, key me" to the local scallies. Quattro's a great idea but Q-car??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 just to clarify whats a Q-car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Go for the R32 Digsy, i must admit to nearly buying one of these before the zed, but i was going to have to wait an age to buy a new one so changed my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Random thoughts: Alfa 147/156 GTA Subaru Forrester sti / legacy volvo t5/6 MG ZT V8 ( ) Celica t-sport Seat Leon cupra Mazda 6 MPS Mondeo ST No.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 just to clarify whats a Q-car? A car which doesn't give too many clues externally to the fact that its fast as f@ck. The old Senators which were mentioned above are a good example. Or a debadged BMW 540i. Or a Mazda 3 MPS. Looked at another way, my missus would say an R32 was just another Golf but a Civic Type R is obviously a hot hatch even to her untrained eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 just to clarify whats a Q-car? A fast car that looks a bit boring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Nice Skoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomfry Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yea skoda vrs fabia or octavia they're quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 then defo the audi s3 or golf r32 debadged rs4 or build one when my dad was about my age, him and a mate built a sleeper, it was a mini estate, taty round the outside, but blacked out rear windows. this was because it was hiding a V12 in the back. the front engine had been removed and replaced with a concrete block to hold the nose down. and apparently even then if you floored it from the lights it would wheely. not 100% sure on the engine details but it was bloody quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Sorry, got to disagree about the R32 - I think they look like propper hot hatches - all kitted up etc. And arent they still like £13k?? These 2 reasons are why i suggested the V6 4Motion. Octavia VRS is a good shout, or an ST220. How about the Mk1 Focus ST? They look standard dont they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/ww ... x_mileage= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xStric9x Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Saab do a 9-5 2.3hot aero t which i think has 260 bhp and a 0-60 in about 6.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/BMW+M3/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-88-240-4294966389-4294967202/advert.action?R=200846323004459&distance=73&postcode=b46+3lj&channel=CARS&make=BMW&model=M3&min_pr=9000&max_pr=&max_mileage= M3 with chrome rims - very stealth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sorry, got to disagree about the R32 - I think they look like propper hot hatches - all kitted up etc. And arent they still like £13k?? These 2 reasons are why i suggested the V6 4Motion. I'm talking about a new Mk5 R32 which I can lease cheaply. The Mk4 was very obviously a hot hatch but the 5 just seems to have the chrome grille (like a Jetta) and the twin exhausts to make it stand out. A secondhand ST170's probably worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sorry, got to disagree about the R32 - I think they look like propper hot hatches - all kitted up etc. And arent they still like £13k?? Thought the current R32 looked quite ordinary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 didn't they do a st220 focus or their was the RS focus, that was meant to be quick. and all focuses look the same to me. i'm not a fan of ford, in fact i hate them. but the focus was an ok car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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