philw99 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I've kinda messed up Added a bigger oil pan and oil cooler: Filled the car with oil and did a track day, happy to report my install held together perfectly with no leaks The problem being rushing the job and not thinking i didn't add an oil temperature gauge... Anyone got any advise on the simplest one to add? Do i have to drain all the oil again? (Wasn't cheap the stuff i put in and it's only done one track day) Wish i gone for an oil sump ready for a temperature gauge to be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think. resuming you don't have a grub screw in your sandwich plate. (dont hold me to this) you can wind out the sensor for the oil pressure and fit a tee in the socket then on one side refit the oil pressure sensor, the other you can fit your oil temp probe. I personally have the defi gauge and i think its fantastic, I fitted mine into my mishimoto thermostatic sandwich plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich260 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think you'll be looking at an oil drain bud. I've literally just fitted an oil cooler and temp gauge to mine and the set up has 2 sandwich plates, a thermostatic one with the lines to the cooler and one with the tap's for the sensors. I only changed my oil 200ish miles ago but which is annoying but I don't think there is any way around replaceing it unless you drain in to a bucket and reuse the oil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw99 Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 What gauge and sandwich plate did you get mate? Might do the same just have 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Is that a thermostatic take off plate? if not your going to need one, and you will likely need cover the cooler during cold weather as it may well cool the oil too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich260 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) As above. I bought the kit from Aaran and I believe he got the plates from Merlin Motorsport but it would be worth dropping him a pm to confirm Edited October 25, 2015 by Rich260 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 DE/REV up or HR Motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I only changed my oil 200ish miles ago but which is annoying but I don't think there is any way around replaceing it unless you drain in to a bucket and reuse the oil... cant see a problem with draining and reusing the oil - even if you buy brand new perfectly clean bucket and then bin it afterwards it wouldn't be more than a fiver, certainly cheaper than fresh oil. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumping350 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) I was thinking if it was ok to do the same thing, have drained my oil out into a brand new 16 litre tub with a sealed lid and had it on the side a week now, looks fine and nothing is floating in it or anything and was really careful not to get it contaminated. Ive only done 110 miles on the oil so feel your predicament. I was thinking of putting some gauze in my funnel before I put back in engine to catch anything ive missed but still in two minds whether to do it or not Edited October 26, 2015 by jumping350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw99 Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 DE/REV up or HR Motor? Hi Mark, The car is a 2005 350 DE (Old school) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw99 Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 I only changed my oil 200ish miles ago but which is annoying but I don't think there is any way around replaceing it unless you drain in to a bucket and reuse the oil... cant see a problem with draining and reusing the oil - even if you buy brand new perfectly clean bucket and then bin it afterwards it wouldn't be more than a fiver, certainly cheaper than fresh oil. Actually starting to think i could take off the oil filter and current sandwich plate, they're higher than the oil pan so can probably get away without losing that much oil. Then i've got spare oil to top-up to the correct level after. Ordered a SPA digital gauge http://www.spa-uk.co.uk/Category/Digital%20Gauges Now just need to workout the correct sandwich plate to order, would be great to get one that my goodridge hoses and the temprature gauge plug direcly into. Please talk on the forum about piggybacking two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumping350 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 something like this http://www.mishimoto.co.uk/mishimoto-thermostatic-oil-sandwich-plate.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich260 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Or this if you can live without the bling it's nearly half the price: https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/mocal-oil-sandwich-plate-with-thermostat-m-otsp-1 I think you will still get most of the oil out even if you don't take the sump plug out dude...Get a new bucket, drain the oil in to that and re use it. As jumping 350 suggested, gauze in the funnel is a great idea to ensure your don't get any contaminates back in the system. Edited October 26, 2015 by Rich260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy10v Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I dont think the Mocal thermostatic sandwich plate has a sensor port? The Mishimoto one does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Just ordered myself one of those spa oil temp/fuel pressure gauge, looks like a good price for some neat features, cheers for the heads up, should go well with my cobbled together semi oil cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich260 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I dont think the Mocal thermostatic sandwich plate has a sensor port? The Mishimoto one does. Very good point. I have 2 plates to run a sensor which obviously makes it less cost effective. Mishimoto may be cheeper over all and to be fair you will have less joints so less chance of a leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 There is a drilling in the sump that allows you to read oil temp , the DE motor has this blocked off the REV UP motors has oil temp trip calibrated in the stock ECU ( will put the car into limp if the oil temp gets to 130deg C) so it has an oil temp sensor fitted and wired into the ECU (see below picture) This will allow you to read OIL temp with out any extra take off plates or draining the oil on a DE motor Thread is M10 x 1 ( I think will double check) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 This the same for HR engine as well mark? And also does the HR go into limp at 130? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 This the same for HR engine as well mark? And also does the HR go into limp at 130? yes it is can be turned off with Uprev software thou 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do you normally turn it off with the uprev? Sounds like something you would want to leave on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If your running an oil cooler yes I turn this off. Main issue we find with this DTC trip is heat soak when you turn the car off. Also won't reset without a code reader even if the oil temp drops below 130deg C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ah ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw99 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 There is a drilling in the sump that allows you to read oil temp , the DE motor has this blocked off the REV UP motors has oil temp trip calibrated in the stock ECU ( will put the car into limp if the oil temp gets to 130deg C) so it has an oil temp sensor fitted and wired into the ECU (see below picture) This will allow you to read OIL temp with out any extra take off plates or draining the oil on a DE motor Thread is M10 x 1 ( I think will double check) Thanks for your help Mark. Shame I'd ordered the sandwich plate this afternoon. Not to worry Think this is it? Bolt above the place the filter unit bolts too: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 There is a drilling in the sump that allows you to read oil temp , the DE motor has this blocked off the REV UP motors has oil temp trip calibrated in the stock ECU ( will put the car into limp if the oil temp gets to 130deg C) so it has an oil temp sensor fitted and wired into the ECU (see below picture) This will allow you to read OIL temp with out any extra take off plates or draining the oil on a DE motor Thread is M10 x 1 ( I think will double check) Thanks for your help Mark. Shame I'd ordered the sandwich plate this afternoon. Not to worry Think this is it? Bolt above the place the filter unit bolts too: Thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZonixX Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Has anybody succeeded in reading the oil temp data through some OBD2 app, maybe through adding a custom PID, or is the data read by the sensor not accessible by any means? I see that the sensor used is exactly of the same type as the one used to read water temp. Edited April 2, 2016 by ZonixX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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