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https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-porsche/eighth-generation-porsche-911-officially-unveiled/39204 Sorry for the PH link, it's all there is right now until Porsche update their main page. My thoughts? I think the front end looks much better than the 991 (love the bonnet lines), I'm very happy they're all fat-bodied now, and those specs are seriously impressive: 430bhp, 3.5secs to 60 in the RWD version! That's just crazy, especially when you think that they keep moving the engine forward a little so it's even closer to being mid-engined now. Downsides? Well let's start with the obvious. That rear is, sadly, exactly as expected from the prototypes, by which I mean it's very bland and ugly. The light strip is gorgeous, but there's far too much blank space underneath it and the black plastic part housing the exhaust tips isn't worthy of a £100K car. I doubt the painted option will look any better, but we'll be able to see when the configurator goes live. I'm also not keen at all on the interior, what with the rather random looking PDK selector tacked on almost. I thought it was the key first of all! With all the screen space on the dash it's more S-Class than sports class, and the design of the tacho looks a little bland to me. I'm hoping it doesn't look quite so odd in the flash, but I'm not that keen on the current Panamera interior and the use of haptics in that either despite the rest of the world loving it, so we'll see. That said, I'm sure it'll still be class-leading to drive, I just wish they'd stop launching it in the winter as that always means my test drive is in the cold and damp! I'll keep an eye out for when my local OPC is doing their launch night, and pray I'm not working so I can get over for it. Also, negative car man points for anyone who says any of the following: - "It looks just like the old one" - "Not another Beetle" - "A GT-R is faster and cheaper!" - "It's a Porsche, Dan is going to love it and want to do sexy times with it regardless"

You'd have hoped we would've checked that first really. I hope the answer is no. Right now, we're going to get exactly what we deserve IMHO.

Bizarrely mine used a ton of it when I first got it, but after a while it stopped. I'm putting that down to the previous owner never really using the full rev range, and me... well, me definitely using it all!

Will they f*ck. It's a nose cutting off exercise now, on both sides. Damage is done, neither side can be seen to back down. Too much to lose from political perspectives.

Although it would split the leave vote, so arguably we'd be more likely to end with with Remain as the winner...

What were the emissions?

Yours a 997.2 as well isn’t it Hugh? That’s what I had to do with mine, run to operating temp them leave at idle for 5 mins, or whatever time it feels like telling you!

Same as my old 911, and I hated every second of it. Electronic oil measuring is a complex way of doing something so simple, and I trust my own eyes over a gizmo any day.

Might as well hard Brexit with no deal at this point. That’s ultimately where we are now anyway.

I like JRM. I may not agree with everything he says, but I do like that he stands by his opinions even when they’re deeply unpopular. The next Brexit vote is going to be a shambles. We all know it won’t get passed, which leaves us nowhere given that the EU have said that this is the only deal available. In retrospect perhaps the negotiating team should’ve been cross-party to avoid any “Well we could’ve done better!”, but then I doubt we’d have been able to reach a deal with the EU at all. Make no mistake, there’s not a single MP that’s doing anything for the good of the country over this. Tory rebels want May gone, Labour desperate to force a GE so they can do their own coalition, LD trying to appear relevant to the public with that nonsense People’s Vote, SNP taking every opportunity to cry some more about independence, and the DUP going full blackmail. No one cares that a no vote now is suicide. They all just have their own short-term agendas.

Or maybe shipping damaged them, that's just as likely. One of those things I'm afraid, it sucks but it does happen.

Cut it open, refit the cat material, weld it back up. In theory, anyway. Might end up just buying a new one anyway, but can’t hurt to try that first.

You can always do the pedal dance to get the code in the mean time If you have decats then that’ll be the main cause of the problem, so I’d suggest identifying that too.

That was the edited diplomatic version!

Did you take those pics with a potato?! Really you need to get a pic of the decats, if indeed it does have decats. What code is the CEL producing? And what are you ultimately after? I’m not sure there’s an actual question in your post...

Brexit is anything but on course...!

And please don't take my use of the word amateur to be offensive, I mean it purely as an opposite of being done in a lab in scientific conditions. I know you know that, but just for clarity so no-one thinks I'm being an arse

So in shock news, amateur detailer posts up amateur real-world test and the manufacturer is then surprised that it was conducted in an amateur way? Well, I am utterly shocked by that.

I like to keep people on their toes every now and then, I find it makes them even warier of me

You don't have to find sources that prove the opposite view of your argument: What we're asking for is something factual that supports your view point.

Thank you. That makes for a much more reasonable counter-argument, however it does not state any sources to back up your claims, so ultimately isn't very helpful. If you wish to present a different side to a story, then it's up to you to provide evidence not for us to find it for you. And given that list says the BBC is the 4th most trusted brand in the world, and how often the BBC itself is criticised for both left and right-leaning articles, I'm not convinced it's very helpful.

Okay, so instead of telling him his source is wrong how about countering with some actual data of your own? Otherwise your argument is no better than his.

HAHAHAHA YES HE HAS B&Q BUCKETS!!!

Where's the Fairy Liquid?

Genuinely not fussed about a EuroArmy either way tbh. It's waaaaaaay down my agenda on things that bother me. Now being stuck with a backstop that's conditional on both sides agreeing to it, that's spectacularly dreadful. I don't think there's any way around it either, not sensibly. The more I look at Brexit, the more I think you might as well go hard if you're going to do it properly, and then deal with the fallout. At this rate if the existing pre-deal does get passed by both sides (highly unlikely atm) then the markets will hate it regardless, so I don't think we'll be any better off.