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Why the hell are we discussing a Yaris in the same thread as a Supra? Might was well compare one to a Fiesta ST if we’re playing ultimate silliness. No one who is looking at a Supra/Z4 is going to want a Yaris. No one.

@docwra has got it nailed though, I’ve driven some big power stuff and some of it has terrified me. Try 300+ in an Elise chassis and tell me you need anything else! Biggest usable power I’ve driven was an F12, but look at the cost that goes into one (and even then it was happy to spin the wheels in 4th in the dry).

So basically he’s in dreamland and this will never happen? Cool, I’m glad we got there in the end.

This gets worse has he ever driven something with that much power? And if so, consistently?

If it’s not a self build, then he’s in dreamland. He’ll never get the chance to use it, and labour costs alone will be the cost of another fun car he could actually use to 100%. What next after 1000bhp? 1200? 1500? At what point will he stop? Question, does he actually use the current 600bhp all the time?

An auto jdm convertible should be about £3.76 and a packet of skittles I would imagine nothing on eBay or FB?

And that’s in a modern car with PDK designed on a budget of millions, too. On a 90’s classic car with a slow old auto box, it’s hardly going to be cutting edge usable.

Utterly pointless. In most cases 200bhp is plenty for the road, hell even in a boggo 350 DE you’re still holding plenty back unless you’re a moron. And how many revs is 1000bhp gonna be usable over on a 3.something engine? Maybe you’ll hit max boost at 5k rpm and have it until 7k? Okay I’m guessing here, but it’ll need a big turbo and big boost which means a ton of lag: Where can you plant your foot for that long outside of a drag strip? Now if he’s building it all himself and the thrill is in the engineering side not the driving, 100% I can understand that and fully support it. But if it’s for the drive, it’s a huge waste of time and money.

I never said that!

I don’t dispute that manufacturing defects creep through, but cars as a whole are a billion times more reliable and better put together than cars of the golden age you mention. They would rust to dust just looking at them, and that’s before we start with much wider engineering tolerances on the power train side.

Couldn’t disagree with you more! It’s almost impossible to buy a proper shed of a new car these days, quality has increased massively compared with 20-30 years ago when there were some rift dogs available. Even the cheapest Dacia built to a price not a spec is a perfectly usable car that will go on and on for ages. We talk about poor plastics and funny placed switchgear as a reason not to buy a car, rather than constant failures or things breaking on a first test drive out the door on zero mileage simply because of these manufacturing improvements.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a change btw. The 350 is hardly the world’s most perfect car, nothing wrong with experiencing as many different cars in your life as you can

Yup. But to the great unwashed, every car over 100k is about to fall apart and die. The public are indeed idiots.

In terms of saving money I think you’re being optimistic: v8s aren’t exactly known for being good on fuel! Unless the insurance is literally half as much and it’s already a grand, running costs will be broadly the same, plus I would imagine Lexus parts are more expensive than Nissan ones at a guess?

This isn’t about whether the swap is a good idea, it’s about whether you want to change your cars. Lexus do nothing for me at all, but if you want to scratch a v8 itch that seems a cheap way of doing it.

M4 not on the list? I hate the way they drive, but gotta be worth considering in CS format at a least.

Cayman is a good shout, but I’d look for a Boxster instead. Then you have a proper alternative to the mustang: FR V8 4 seat coupe vs MR F6 2 seat convertible. Both very different cars but equally as rewarding in different ways. R8/991 won’t help you out as they’re both very wide cars. A 997 would be a much better choice and well within the lower budget, as they can still be thrown around without worrying about the width quite so much.

A lot of that is going to be down to pcp deals. For the average person, if you can put yourself behind the wheel of a perceived better badge that feels a nicer place to be behind the wheel (and let’s be honest, the Germans wipe the floor with the competition on that front) for just a little bit higher monthly payment then you’re going to do so. I believe this is partly why the 370 failed in this country, £300 pcm for a Nissan or £400 pcm for a Cayman/TT/2-series is a no brainer for many. To have to spend the money to get the car type approved in the UK & Europe when you’re not guaranteed to sell a bucketload, and with the divisive looks that’s probable, it doesn’t make financial sense. I’m sure Nissan UK would love to have a car in that segment, but unless it sells like hot cakes in the US it’s incredibly unlikely to ever happen.

Why run a square setup and unbalance the car? Stagger them and go as quick as you can, that’s what track is for Between the 888R and A052 you’re talking fractions, not sure I’d worry about it too much tbh.

Oh I doubt it. I spend my working day with big man tings like that, they’re all crying their eyes out by the end of the day when we take their tv off them

Oi, the RE050As were bloody decent tyres I’ll have you know!

Sensible policing in the first one. Pick your battles...

Most people hate the Bridgestones as they relate to the RE040 that came as stock: the RE050A were brilliant tyres on the HR, and I ran them on my 997 too.

This is a no brainer if it works properly

Linky no worky, takes you to the group page.