Dan

Clarkson can be annoying and arrogant. Hammond not too bad but does come out with the same old one liners again and again. I find James May very amusing, so voted for him but agree with Nixy that Hammond is the only "shaggable one"

Well someone had to start it and I'm away now till January 2nd and won't be on line, so Merry Christmas to you all and all the best for the New Year

Thats absolute b*llocks. I hate that kind of cr*p. And this from a Radio Station that advertises "Black music only". Politically correct ? I think not.

Bit strange that one, didn't look to be too much of a bend and it just came round on him. Lucky to miss the armco though. P.S. Yes, I would be interested in a track day. I've done Oulton Park before, long time ago when I worked for Peugeot and they launched the 205 GTi and sent us all on a track day in the car. Not really bothered which track we end up on, should be a laugh as long as I have a decent car when it happens. I would just add that the later dates would be better. Good chance of Snow at Oulton in early Feb and the Z4M doesn't move on Snow !

I don't know how that man is still alive, he has been constantly drunk for the last 35 years

Oh dear, my pet subject. I'm 40 and I've been out of work for two weeks in my entire life. I couldn't afford to be out of work and I refuse to live on hand outs so I took anything that was going, factory work, driving vans, throwing drunks out of clubs whatever I could get and I've had some crap jobs but I always looking for something better. I know for a fact I could go out now knocking on factory doors and round industrial estates and get a job this afternoon. Many of the people on benefits long term are lazy oiks who don't want to work or are "better off" on benefits than in low paid jobs. Thats a situation that should never be allowed to happen. In return for benefits they should be made to do menial duties, like cleaning public toilets, picking up rubbish in the streets, cutting the grass on motorway verges etc. They should work 9 till 5 like the rest of us in return for their hand outs. Then lets see how long it takes them to get a job. Rant over.

Bunch of nutters....

Quality thread

A young man Called Ron wanted to buy a Christmas present for his new girlfriend. They hadn't been seeing each other for very long and she lived a considerable distance away. he consulted with his sister and decided after careful consideration, that a pair of good quality gloves would strike the right note, not too romantic and not too personal. Off he went with his sister to Harrods and they selected a pairof quality, fur lined leather gloves. His sister bought a pair of knickers for herself at the same time. Harrods had a free gift wrap offer, but the assistant mixed up the two items, so the sister got the gloves and Ron got the knickers! Good old Ron sent off his gift wrapped present in a parcel with the following letter: Dear Sasha, I chose these because I've noticed you are not wearing any when we go out in the evenings. If it had not been for my sister, I would have chosen the long ones with buttons, but she wears shorter ones (which are easier to take off). These are a very delicate shade, and the lady I bought them from showed me the pair she had been wearing for the past three weeks and they were hardly soiled at all. I had her try yours on for me, and she looked really smart in them even though they were a little bit tight on her. She also said that they rub against her ring, which keeps it clean. In fact she hasn't needed to wash it since she began wearing them. I wish I was there to put them on for you the first time, as no doubt many other hands will touch them before I have chance to see you again. When you take them off, remember to blow into them a little bit, because they will be naturally a little damp from wearing. Just imagine how many times my lips will kiss them during the coming year. I hope you will wear them for me on our next date. Love , Ron P.S I thought you might like to know that my mum likes to wear hers folded down with a little bit of fur showing.

PMSL

Yeah, I get that a lot

Hmm, okay I'd be interested in a group track day effort as long as we got a decent amount of track time and not too much of that classroom bull. Wouldn't really want to use my own car though ( stock ) so preferbly one where they provide the cars for us to stuff. Erm, I mean learn in. Also might be able to come along on the Ring outing, so lets maybe start organising something properly and see whats what.

Ah but the snowy time is coming and he has much better chance of not getting stuck with me bouncing up and down in the car, and I know exactly what mental image is running through his gay little head right now And also being a large cumbersome buffoon I give off far more BTUs so I can save his entire family money on heating bills, which can be offset against my appetite for Guinness and KFC. Another string to my bow

I can see both sides of this argument, but lets put this into perspective. With 75 cars to run I am probably using more fuel than most. Cars on site get a short run every week to keep them working properly ( so many garages let their cars sit and never turn a wheel ) and more often than not they need a gallon putting in, I use a couple of tanks a week for business use and maybe 1.5 tanks a week for personal use, my salesman is on company fuel and gets a tank every week and I have my Dad and his best mate ( both retired ) doing errands for us through the week and pay their petrol too so it all adds up. On the bright side I do get to claim the VAT back which is currently worth about 18p a litre. But lets be realistic here. Assuming I am using about 400 litres per week and say for example we manage to get 5 pence a litre knocked off, that adds up to a whopping £20 I'll save. For someone using one tank a week, say 50 litres, the saving will be £2.50. In reality anyone who can afford to run a car really shouldn't be affected by £2.50 a week so I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Having said all that I was one who completely disagreed with the switch to litre pricing because that was obviously a huge scam. An increase of 2p a litre is effectively 10 pence a gallon and nobody would have stood for that kind of increase. I remember a huge furore when petrol hit £1.00 a GALLON !!! In addition the older generation have no idea how much they are actually paying for fuel. I recently had a conversation with my Dad, who is 70, and mentioned fuel heading for £5 a gallon and he couldn't believe it. He had never actually worked out 4.54 litres to the gallon and realised how much he was really paying. So anyway, the point of all this was to express how futile the protests are going to be. I can't see us getting much more than 5p a litre knocked off and thats practically insignificant to most people. And in any case the price will creep back up again while nobody is looking...

Ok just to confirm I am actually quite serious about the adoption thing. I'm much more serious than the other guy I can cook ( not really ) clean the house ( not really ) and do other stuff which I haven't discovered yet. I'm really quite handy to have around the place in a very cute useless layabout kind of way. I'm sure we would all settle in very quickly and live happily ever after. In fact you would hardly notice I was there at all. Especially if you paid for all my fuel

Clutch weight in the Zed is pretty average and I'm sure you would get used to it. Overall they are an excellent package for the money, fun, quick, reliable, reasonably well made and look the part. Biggest problem with an import is re-sale, although as you are looking at an Auto that tends to balance that out because anyone wanting an Auto Zed HAS to have an import. RX-8 second hand is a bargain, your budget would get you a very late one. I recently did an 05 plate with 10k miles for £13,000 wheras a Zed that age and mileage would be £20k. I like them but you have to wring their necks to make them go, which can be fun but wearing after a while. Build quality is very nearly as good as the Nissan. 330Ci you really can't go wrong. They are relatively expensive to buy which means an older car with more mileage for your money, but they hold their value, they are well made nice looking a good drive, and since you like an Auto it's the only logical choice from your shortlist. Why ? Because Auto versions of "sports" cars are lemons and do not sell ( this is why there is no Auto 350z or RX8 in the UK market ), whereas 330Ci's only sell as Autos ( with Leather ) and as a manual you can't give them away. Monaro is also not available as an Auto, and as for the XK8, much as I love them you would be buying quite an old car with your budget and could be heading for expense. Good luck mate

Very true.

My memory is not good ( I turned 40 recently, remember ) but there are some cracking roads around the lakes that I know very well, but mostly cluttered with traffic unless you get out very early on a Sunday morning. Nowadays, for pure unalderated fun you have to head for the Highlands. I aim to do it a couple of times a year and it's good for the soul, high cross country speeds on deserted roads for mile after mile, absolutely superb.

Jay old bean, don't do it on a public road if your not used to it mate or you will bin it. The best solution right now is to wait for it to snow, won't be long, then find an empty ASDA car park or similar and go for a play. This allows you to get a feel for going sideways and applying opposite lock at safe speeds. The next step is to do a track day or something along those lines because with modern cars you have to be cornering pretty hard and your definitely going to **** it up a few times and you need a run off area mate. The alternative is to buy an old three litre Capri because they slide at walking pace and if you bin that you just stand back and laugh

Yeah but thats a bad picture, she is dead cute and very funny. I always go for the funny girls, cos they need to have a sense of humour to sleep with me

Don't forget this is the internet and we have to allow what is sometimes a quite significant margin for the "bullshit quotient" As in "I was hammering down this country lane in the dark, it was pouring with rain and I could hardly see a thing. I had Nickleback blasting out with 140 on the clock when all hell broke loose and I nearly binned it" probably means "I was casually ambling along a dual carraigeway in bright sunny conditions with excellent visability. I was singing along to the Backstreet Boys at 45 when the wife accidentally switched on my heated seat which momentarily distracted me causing me to deviate several inches from my intended path and hit a pothole" Not quite the same...

LOL my sales manager has a company car but the others walk, except for the pretty 17 year old receptionist who seems to get a lift home off the boss for some strange reason

Yeah I know what you mean, I'm always checking the mode switch because it tends to move just getting it out of the case....

Bit late spotting this thread but I went through this quite recently and after seeking advice from people with far more knowledge than me ( ok, thats most people on the planet ) I ended up with a Sony DSC-W50 and it's brilliant. I bought a big memory card so it never fills up and I'm a very happy chappy. Highly recommended.

Your Daddy has got entirely too much money. Will you please ask him if he will adopt me. I will be a good boy I promise