ok after hours of head scratching a young man called Craig "The Legend" Bissett came to the rescue (and his missus ), you all know him as Cragus
he travelled an hour to reach me by 12 midnight and we set to work problem solving, i was just about to dismatle the window housing when we came back indoors to do a web search and see what you guys were advising. i also did a google search and trawled through some posts when randomly some guys mentions the door connectors. now my painter had the doors off, like he has time and time again but we both though it would be worth a check.
so after some time detaching the freshly painted doors and using my dogs bed to lay them down in the pitch black as its after 1oclock now we discovered my painted had managed to get overspray on the harness connector pins. so gentley we cleaned them up and got the doors back on and PRESTO !!!!!! alls good in the world again
I cant thank Craig enough for making the journey as i would never had been able to acheive this on my own, and i can now grab 3 hours sleep before i set of to liverpool in the morning safe in the fact that the missus wont kill me for ruining our break away
thanks for all you input guys, it all helped