Agggghhhhhhh, you can not imagine how I have been feeling this last week. I was a drizzely day last friday, I spent most of it outside getting a WLAN working, I pull up at a remote buliding and my boss says mind that post over there when you reverse out..... I get back in the Zed, check all mirrors - No Post !!!, start to perform a 3 point turn, reverse round, still checking mirrors, pull forward and hear a noise..... my heart sinks, get out the car, sprint to the rear..... I guess you can all see what coming............... I nearly cried, as I was on the way back to the office a phone call was made which I think was along the lines of "no one make any comment to doogyrev otherwise you are likely to get something large inserted in a small hole - He's not a happy chappie"