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I am trying to eliminate issues that might stop my car from starting. I have already made sure my battery is fully charged. Checked the fuses behind the battery and I still only get a single click. All my lights and other electrics work, so unless anyone can point out something else. The only thing I can think of is either the clutch pedal switch or the starter motor.

 

Before I have a go at removing the starter motor and trying another one, is there a way I can rule out the clutch switch?

 

Any tips for removing the starter motor on a driveway?

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If the clicking is coming from the starter motor then it may be jammed in the flywheel. Two things you can do. Firstly put car in gear and rock it ( push ). Secondly while someone is trying to start it give the starter a knock which usually frees it

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The battery may be charged but may not have the full power to turn the engine over. If i were you i would borrow some jump leads and see if it starts from another vehicle. When you say bump start you did mean by pushing it ?

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The battery may be charged but may not have the full power to turn the engine over. If i were you i would borrow some jump leads and see if it starts from another vehicle. When you say bump start you did mean by pushing it ?

 

the battery is only a year old, and I tried jump starting with a set of leads. It started when I had a mate push it and I popped the clutch.

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The battery may be charged but may not have the full power to turn the engine over. If i were you i would borrow some jump leads and see if it starts from another vehicle. When you say bump start you did mean by pushing it ?

 

the battery is only a year old, and I tried jump starting with a set of leads. It started when I had a mate push it and I popped the clutch.

Still could be the battery. Could also be the alternator. Take it to an electrical specialist that reconditions alternators. They should be able to find the issue without charging you a fortune :thumbs:

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I managed To remove my starter motor, both the actuator and starter motor work ok when I hooked it up to a spare battery.

 

 

Is there a way to test the clutch switch? Is there likely to be a fuse that I have missed?

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This may help...taken from the maintenance manual. If the car bump starts then the problem must lie within the following ..

 

STARTING SYSTEM

System Description M/T MODELS

Power is supplied at all times:

â— through 40A fusible link (letter M, located in the fuse and fusible link box)

â— to ignition switch terminal 1

â— through 15A fuse (No.73, located in the IPDM E/R)

â— to CPU of IPDM E/R.

With the ignition switch in the ON or START position, power is supplied:

â— through 10A fuse (No.80, located in the IPDM E/R)

â— to CPU of IPDM E/R

â— through 10A fuse (No.71, located in the IPDM E/R)

â— to clutch interlock switch terminal 1.

When the clutch pedal is depressed, power is supplied

â— through clutch interlock switch terminal 2

â— to IPDM E/R terminal 43.

Ground is supplied:

â— to IPDM E/ R terminals 14, 45 and 46

â— through body grounds E17, E43 and F152.

Then starter relay is turn ON.

With the ignition switch in the START position, IPDM E/R is energized and power is supplied:

â— from ignition switch terminal 4

â— to IPDM E/R terminal 11 and

â— through IPDM E/R terminal 4

â— to starter motor terminal 1.

PFP:23300

The starter motor plunger closes and provides a closed circuit between the battery and starter motor. The starter motor is grounded to the engine block. With power and ground supplied, cranking occurs and the engine starts.

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I put my old starter back on and the car fired up straight away, I turned it off and tried again and just got the single click again. I am not sure if it was a fluke or that it does point to the starter motor being duff?

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I put my old starter back on and the car fired up straight away, I turned it off and tried again and just got the single click again. I am not sure if it was a fluke or that it does point to the starter motor being duff?

 

Either the gear on the end of the starter motor which gets thrown into mesh with the fly wheel is damaged and sticking in mesh with the flywheel or the starter motor itself is duff. Have you tried putting the car in 2 nd gear and rocking it back and forwards to see if the starter motor gear wheel u meshes from the flywheel?

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I put my old starter back on and the car fired up straight away, I turned it off and tried again and just got the single click again. I am not sure if it was a fluke or that it does point to the starter motor being duff?

 

Either the gear on the end of the starter motor which gets thrown into mesh with the fly wheel is damaged and sticking in mesh with the flywheel or the starter motor itself is duff. Have you tried putting the car in 2 nd gear and rocking it back and forwards to see if the starter motor gear wheel u meshes from the flywheel?

 

No, I tried doing that in first gear, would that make any difference?

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Would be much the same I expect, just I always select 2nd. So long as the flywheel is made to move and hopefully release the starter gear if it has got caught up. The more violent you can jog the flywheel the more chance it will release.

The click you hear when trying to turn the engine over will be the starter solenoid relay pulling in to supply current to the starter motor.

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