Dicky Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Currently in the heat of battle with local dealer/customer services re a gear change problem. When changing from 1st to 2nd I feel something catching as I engage 2nd. Ive got an 04 car and it’s the same most times but on occasions I’ve managed a smooth change. Its worse when cold but noticeable most of the time. I’ve raised it before but think I referred to it as a “notchy†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 there's a difference between 1 and 2 gear notchiness and the syncho problem. Personally i've never read of the 1-2 gear synchro being an issue. Both my gearboxes do/have done the same from 1 to 2 gear, especially when cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 invariably if I try gunning it in 1st and attempt a swift change to 2nd there is a certain notchyness.. I find in best to use 1st to just get moving then gun it in 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptist Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Most cars are notchy between 1st and 2nd when cold, just let the oil/components warm up and it should be much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Mine is currently in for it's fix / replacement, and I agree that when cold it does it between 1st and 2nd, but also in others (2nd to 3rd for sure). I'll find out what difference is possible in the next couple of days I guess. But one thing's for sure, when it's warm then it's generally fine (except my current problem!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share Posted October 31, 2006 Mine is currently in for it's fix / replacement, and I agree that when cold it does it between 1st and 2nd, but also in others (2nd to 3rd for sure). I'll find out what difference is possible in the next couple of days I guess. But one thing's for sure, when it's warm then it's generally fine (except my current problem!). I’d be interested to hear your views on the finished product. Regarding other comments. I’ve only gunned it from rest on two occasions (sad barsteward I know) and I’ve got to be honest I tended to be holding on rather than ponder the gear change performance. I would define “notchy†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traktion Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Mine is slightly notchy from 1st to 2nd when cold, but after 5 mins or so, it's fine. It still feels slightly meaty, but I like that All the other gears in my box are silky smooth too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Doh!! I ticked Agree instead of Disagree, as I read the Poll as "I CAN get a smooth change between 1st & 2nd". Agreed, when the box is cold there's a bit of resistance from 1st-2nd, but after a few minutes every change (incl 4th-6th) is smooth. Personally, I wouldn't be bothered if I never had 1st gear as there's so much torque when pulling away in 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I get the not-so-slick 1st to 2nd gear change when cold but when the car's warmed up it's fine. No other gear change is sticky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I find in best to use 1st to just get moving then gun it in 2nd Totally agree mate I use 1st to about 5k revs then change up pretty early to 2nd but gives you a longer, smoother acceration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty Z Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I had this problem up untill a few weeks ago. I was doing abit of traffic light gp and drastically missed second i was sure i had bent the selector or ****ed the sync up. To my amazement it actually made the gearbox much smoother so I think when I got the car the car the selector was slightly bent and I must have straightened it back out with my @*!# gear change:) Have you had the car from new? If cars done more than 20k I would also change the gearbox oil for some decent fully syth stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 I had this problem up untill a few weeks ago.I was doing abit of traffic light gp and drastically missed second i was sure i had bent the selector or ****ed the sync up. To my amazement it actually made the gearbox much smoother so I think when I got the car the car the selector was slightly bent and I must have straightened it back out with my @*!# gear change:) Have you had the car from new? If cars done more than 20k I would also change the gearbox oil for some decent fully syth stuff. Yup had it from new. To be fair it’s a bit better now than it was some 6mths ago. This is the first close ratio box I’ve had so don’t know if this sort of thing is to be expected. As I said the dealer said there all like this and it’s because it’s a close ratio box. If that’s fair comment then OK. But at the moment I don’t know if it’s a fob off (because they tried that one before to!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev-the-Rev Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I get the not-so-slick 1st to 2nd gear change when cold but when the car's warmed up it's fine. No other gear change is sticky. Exactly the same with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_watson Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 My first to second is occasionally a bit clunky but it comes and goes, i dont mind it half as much as a strange clicking noise which my clutch pedal makes now and again when depressing it. When i took it to the dealer he assured me that all of them do this and even let me sit in another one and try it. Sure enough it made the same clicky noise and he mentioned it has something to do with the mechanism that you have to depress the clutch to start the engine. It seems to come and go, i dont know if the way i drive the car and change gear effects it or not?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam's Z Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I find in best to use 1st to just get moving then gun it in 2nd Totally agree mate I use 1st to about 5k revs then change up pretty early to 2nd but gives you a longer, smoother acceration. Just get moving @ 5k rpm WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I find in best to use 1st to just get moving then gun it in 2nd Totally agree mate I use 1st to about 5k revs then change up pretty early to 2nd but gives you a longer, smoother acceration. Just get moving @ 5k rpm WTF Sarnie's attempt at being droll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAP350Z Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I've got a Tiptronic and never had any problems with gearchanges. Smooth as a babys wotsit even in the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugger Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I've got a Tiptronic and never had any problems with gearchanges. Smooth as a babys wotsit even in the cold. So not very smooth then? I have seen babies wotsits and they are all soggy where they have just sucked on them and made them mushy. http://walkers.corpex.com/cr15p5/produc ... ktypeid=40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I find in best to use 1st to just get moving then gun it in 2nd Totally agree mate I use 1st to about 5k revs then change up pretty early to 2nd but gives you a longer, smoother acceration. Just get moving @ 5k rpm WTF Sarnie's attempt at being droll Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 Thanks for all your input guys its been useful iwhen dealing with the crap the Nissan dealer crew try to fob you off with. Dicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I didn't have any problems with my gearbox at all until at my last service i asked them to change the gearbox oil even though it was not scheduled to be changed. Since then it struggles into 1st and 2nd when its cold? a totally noticeable difference. Wished i hadn't bothered paying £32 for the oil change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 You won’t believe this but I’ve actually made contact with someone in Nissan Customer Services who has a BRAIN. Yeh, he actually understands what professionalism means and takes ownership of problems. If he promises to call back HE ACTUALLY DOES . It also bothers him that a 350Z UK poll of dealer and customer service satisfaction, rates them both so poorly and that other Z owners are experiencing the same gear change problem I am. Before discovering this guy, Id already written a letter of complaint to one of Nissans big guns, Garry Friego, and laid out my whole sorry story. Highlighting their incompetence and the lack of professionalism shown by both their customer services and local dealerships. My gearbox complaints been going on since May and I’m no further forward. They never call me back and I have to constantly chase them. Having blasted this guy during the phone call (I hadn’t dealt with him before, he must be the only one!) He actually called me back; he’s rang the local dealer and is currently sorting things out for me. He said that Nissan are aware of problems with 1st to 2nd gear change and if the dealer won’t produce a letter saying that my problem is "a characteristic" then they’ll fix it. I’m GOB SMACKED. The poll results, although a small sample size, still made them think and were very useful when blasting them. Ive also included them in the letter to Mr Friego. Thanks to all who contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted December 8, 2006 Author Share Posted December 8, 2006 Its official, Nissan now admit that the slight catching sensation when 2nd is engaged is a characteristic of their gearbox and is within normal manufacturing limits. Got a reply from Gerry Friego this morning along with a free service offer as a gesture of good will. He also said that my local dealer, who had refused to give me such a letter in the first place, will now be doing so. Progress at last, its only taken six months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl114 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I find in best to use 1st to just get moving then gun it in 2nd Totally agree mate I use 1st to about 5k revs then change up pretty early to 2nd but gives you a longer, smoother acceration. Just get moving @ 5k rpm WTF Leave him too it, he thinks he is the Stig! lol As said before, in the first 10 minutes of driving the 1st to 2nd gear change is a bit bunnyish, however after that i have no problems at all. My MG had the same characteristics though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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