HT Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 An old chestnut, I know! I have a 53 plate 350 with 10,000 miles on the clock, which I've had for just over a month. With the recent cold weather I've noticed that it's much harder to engage 2nd gear & sometimes requires a double-clutch. It will also sometimes grind slightly. Its also noticable in 3rd, but to a much lesser extent. Once driven 10-20 miles and everythings warmed up it's not nearly as bad and is generally smooth & crunch-free. Does this sound like worn synchro's or is this to be expected at low temperatures, even with such a low milage? I can live with it, but if it's a serious problem then I need to get something done about it sooner rather than later. The car has never been raced and appears to have been well looked after by the previous owner and is currently covered by a Nissan warranty. Any help & advice will be very gratefully recieved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xStric9x Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Mine has done this since i've had the car, only from 1st to 2nd in the cold. As you say after a few miles it goes away, something i think which is down to the characteristics of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xStric9x Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Welcome by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike150 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Mine does the 1st to 2nd cold thing too. The colder the gearbox is the less co-operative it is...........1st to 2nd jus won't go It's fine after a couple of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-B Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 same thing with me,i think its where the oil in the transmission only starts working properly at around 75degrees, i find taking the revs just short of 3k in 1st then changing makes it alot easier, or just jump straight 2 3rd. Welcome, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 mines been like that for 2 years now since I got it (perhaps slightly less severe - no grinding noticed!) - kinda used to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanS16 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Mine does that too but on 2nd to 3rd. Makes you look like a right idiot though as if you can't change gear Also the gears just seem stiffer when cold. Weird though, I've never had it on any other car, just a 06 plate focus that doesnt go into reverse properly! Pingu2- you probably dont notice it because there are no teeth left on the gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I find 1st to 2nd less co-operative in the cold too. No griding or crunching though. Just take it easy for the first few minutes til the oil is warm. Also a 53 reg with only 10k miles?! Did that lay unused for a few years?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xStric9x Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I find 1st to 2nd less co-operative in the cold too. No griding or crunching though. Just take it easy for the first few minutes til the oil is warm. Also a 53 reg with only 10k miles?! Did that lay unused for a few years?! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 you could try changing the gearbox oil for some better stuff. Some members have noted that this can make it worse and some say they have a improvement, perhaps depends on which oil to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Mine does that too but on 2nd to 3rd. Makes you look like a right idiot though as if you can't change gear Also the gears just seem stiffer when cold. Weird though, I've never had it on any other car, just a 06 plate focus that doesnt go into reverse properly! Pingu2- you probably dont notice it because there are no teeth left on the gear could be right you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 i took mine back to nissan 3times over it, they changed the oil, then the oil again with synchros then 3rd time lucky put a brand new box, clutch and flywheel in it under warranty. Its still as it was before but atleast i know the drivetrain will be all good for a good few miles So talking from experience i probably wouldnt worry about it, you will just end up driving a micra or note for a month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Convert Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 you could try changing the gearbox oil for some better stuff. Some members have noted that this can make it worse and some say they have a improvement, perhaps depends on which oil to use what kind of gearbox oil would be good????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWZ Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Me too, very notchy going into 2nd when cold, otherwise fine when warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Thanx for all the help & suggestions!! Have found the best solution, as advised, is to shift from 1st to 3rd for the first few miles until the gearbox oil has warmed up a bit. Get some funny looks though, when you're taking it very steady & accelerating slower than a micra! Meantime, will keep an eye on it & if it worsens or its still a problem when the weather warms up I'll take it back to the dealers & get it sorted under warranty. Cheers, H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgomez1978 Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 alright mate i use to have the same problem with mine, ive just had a P3 service done and it goes into 2nd gear fine now you could try changing the gearbox oil it might help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Mine is an 08 and was a bit stiff from 1st to 2nd and sometimes from 5th to 6th at first...when warm good when hot excellent.... however, after 12000miles all seem ok....even on icy mornings 2nd is as easy all others... i always let the engine run for more than a minute before setting off from cold tho... and if you guys here think your second gear is a bit notchy.... try a maserati gearbox... they say 0-60 4.9 secs... from that time 2 secs are only for changing to second gear.... and it doesnt get any better when warm... and its absolutely normal according to the factory....no way to fix it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 My gear changes are fine in case anyone wanted to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Nice one!! Was going to ask if anyone HAS got a gearbox that shifts smoothly & cleanly through every gear and in all temperatures! Sounds like its entirely down to the luck of the draw, some good un's & some not-so-good un's. Has anyone had a total gearbox failure by the way, under normal driving conditions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Mine is fine too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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