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Utter bobbins. Of course there's things to service! Please don't tell me that EV owners in general (not you, I'm sure you wouldn't as you're not daft) genuinely believe that they can buy one of these things and never worry about taking it to a garage for an annual look over? I can't believe people that buy these would be home mechanics either, as a rule. What do you want to service??? There is no oil to change, no filters, brakes wear slowly due to regen. Even the 'coolant' doesn't require changing on the Leaf till 125k. Electric motors theses days are probably one of the most reliable appliances around, so unlike turbo charged ICE units which we all know are 'sensitive' at the best of times. Yes suspension/tyres wear, but you hardly need to 'service' one to anywhere near the same degree as any ICE car. i guess brakes tyres lights, suspension more inspection than service but still need to be serviced

love it but think if i was going that way i would try a forsberg and get the Vk56

this just confirms my theory of dan he goes to london on the pride parade day in a technicolour bmw talks to me about sucking on a pink one and now hes showing you his big stick But like you said Us petrol heads of many areas of globe are so small and insignificant in our numbers that the world will learn towards EV faster and faster

Most (sensible) businesses will opt for the smaller profit rather than pricing themselves so high chasing the same profit that they drive all their customers to the alternative and put themselves out of business altogether. Not sure share holders would agree Course they will, lets make an example, if asda sell 100 tooth brushes for £1 and tesco sells 75 of the identical tooth brushes for £1.33, they will both have sold £100 worth of tooth brushes. Now, as Asda are selling more tooth brushes than tesco, they can buy them in at a lower price, lets say 10p each compared to tesco's 15p each. Asda - cost £10, sales £100 profit £90 Tesco - cost £11.25, sales £99.75 profit £88.50 sometimes selling for less works better I have never heard of company who is happy to have a lower profit margin than last year ever

Yeah, I mean it's not like supply and demand is an established economic principal or anything. What you've found is one exampe of supply driven pricing, which tends to be a long term effect. You seem to be thinking long term, whilst I'm talking mid-term - largley because we're not even close to 80% of road users driving EV's and it'll be a while before we are. Think of it in terms of diesel, which used to be cheaper than petrol, demand for diesel went up and the price followed at a larger rate than the less in-demand petrol which is now cheaper than diesel. Water vs coke ? Travelodge vs Hilton ? Lidl vs waitrose Supply and demand only works in cases like Apple where it's a desired or luxury item, supply and demand only reallly works when the supply is less of demand Because less people buy jaguars than Ford's doesn't swap the price So if you only have 10% of the supplier of petrol it will go up as less competation

Most (sensible) businesses will opt for the smaller profit rather than pricing themselves so high chasing the same profit that they drive all their customers to the alternative and put themselves out of business altogether. Not sure share holders would agree

Okay. Now, why am I doing that again? Can you highlight the price i cant see it He's saying barely anyone is allowed to sell it, not that they're choosing not to sell it, so it's a different scenario. its not though is it his point was as petrol wont be needed its price will drop 4 star isnt need its price went up as its a luxury a hard to find item, If anyone thinks there will be 10,000 garages selling petrol in the UK when 80% of road users have converted into Ev i think your mad (its an opinion so its allowed), it will become a luxury item and we will pay threw the nose for you sell 1 million barrels and make profit which for arguments sake is 10,000 now you struggle selling 200,000 and you need to make the same 10,000 profit but on 80% less stock only one way that's happening

No, I'm a little too busy to go round phoning companies for prices of a redundant fuel type, especially one which decline was directly relating to legislation rather than a choice of alternatives, you know like we were talking about before 4 Star tangeant. Unless you're implying that with the meteoric rise of EV's in the next 5 years that the Government is going to all-but-outlaw petrol along the way as well? (Or what he said^^ ) you can still buy 4 star and last time i saw it was around 1.90-2.00 a litre, so your point of less demand lowers the price is erm invalid

Okay. Now, why am I doing that again? Can you highlight the price i cant see it

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But at the same time, demand for petrol will decrease as demand for EV's increase. Supply & demand dictates that EV prices will subsequently increase whilst petrol price will decrease. Thus nullifying that gap again. try buying 4 star cheap

i would agree with that as things stand at the moment in time, but with the future and prediction of fuel hitting £1.50 within 12 months and in a handful of years time battery capacity will increase i think that gap with become alot larger another thing would you rather A electric EV car that human controlled or a fossil fuel car thats driverless

true but if you use more than one tank a month (i know i do) and included road duty servicing costs (ie cambelts plugs filters etc) in a fossil burner i dont think it is as high over a year another thing to think about didn't Audi make fuel for water recently or was that all a scam

I recall something about your lease the battery pack from them and then when it dies they replace it, which is trying copying and pasting and it jsut messed it up https://www.renault.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/zoe/battery-and-charging.html

But who fixed the first computers, Tv, Washing machiens etc, it will be the same way as anything New starts out manufactures train people who leave over time and the skills roll down hill

This is why buying cheap cars with big engines is fun: Fuel may cost you more, but you can get a hell of a lot of the stuff for the £££ you save! Also taking into account of the example given of a 30k depreciation on a Tesla, it would "cost" you less to run an old smoker But then all cars depreciate? so not a valid argument a looking on nissan used cars a Gtr Loses £20k in a year no point buying one of them either then if thats your argument we might as well all drive around in £300 gumtree bangers as they will always have the crap value and where did the 30K depreciation come from on Autotrader 2014 Telsa p85 with 11k on a the clock up for 64,950 list price is 79,000

Ev will be king but in 50-60 years i think we have got a long period of hybrids before then

# sorry no distinguishing feature in other words GET SOME BLOODY WHEELS

mpss gets my vote

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Yea the monopros i had on my is200 where fantastic but we fitted the dual techs to friends is200 and there just poor in comparison to the dual techs i have never driven on teins but a friends with a Rx7 does plenty of track work and seems to rate his very much I think you confused yourself there... Fitted dual tech and they were poor in comparison to dual tech? Yea, I love Teins! I have EDFC with mine and I love gadgets like that...so extra bonus haha damn it and i only gave Grundy @*!# for doing that the other day about his ring trip

Yea the monopros i had on my is200 where fantastic but we fitted the dual techs to friends is200 and there just poor in comparison to the monopro i have never driven on teins but a friends with a Rx7 does plenty of track work and seems to rate his very much

Not to my knowledge mate, closest is the BC price wise or get the hsd monopro versions

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