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Product B, a worthy runner up that will do a better job than almost anything else on the market (by which I mean "in my test") was; Meaning that the winner, and the best fallout remover from a lot of other fallout removers, is Car Chem Revolt! That's it. I'm done with fallout removers now.

Well, to complete the test prior to the big reveal, this is what both looked like after 10 minutes; Product A on Wheel 2; Compared to Product B on Wheel 1 after 10 minutes; And whilst I was taking those photos, Product A was still working away (this is after 13-14 minutes on Wheel 2); So whilst Product B picked up more immediately, it was then done. Meanwhile Product A found less immediately but then spent the next 10+ minutes finding more and more. For me, a conclusive win for Product A, but you guys can make your own mind up. And now for the big reveal... drum roll please!

Rinsing happened, then a short break for drip drying followed by; Product A on Wheel 2 immediately looked like this. At which point I was ready to announce Product A the winner - not a huge amount being picked up but there are clearly some spots there that Product B has missed. But to cement that victory, it's only fair to check on Product B. So I did that. Product B on Wheel 1 immediately did this; Oh... there's more than a few spots. I'd go as far to say a few small patches there. So there we have it, Product B is the winner. But which one was Product B I hear you ask?

The final then, as you know, is between Car Chem Revolt and Bilt Hamber Korrosol. Wheels were prep'd in the same way; snow foam, rinse, contact wash with shampoo & were virtually dry by time I got round to this side. Standard procedure; one used on one wheel, the other on a different wheel, both left to dwell for ~10 minutes, rinsed off, wheels given a few minutes to drip dry a little and then the two fallout removers applied to the alternate wheel, left to dwell for ~10 minutes and then rinsed. For this post I'm not going to reveal which product is which until the end. Because... well, because I can, frankly. So Product A was applied to Wheel 1. Within seconds it had done this; Meanwhile Product B was applied to Wheel 2, which immediately did this; Product A on Wheel 1 after ~10 minutes looked like this; Product B on Wheel 2 after ~10 minutes looked like this; Fair to say all four wheels needed decontaminating this time round then!

You could have told me that 3 years ago and saved me three years of my life and a fair amount of money!

Meanwhile Poorboys did this in the first minute on the wheel previously treated with Korrosol; After 8-10 minutes, Korrosol had done this; And Poorboys had done this; Aside from the odd small spot here and there, most of that is being picked up from the brake disc and those 'orrible wheel weights. So the win definitely goes to Bilt Hamber and there are no last minute changes to the finalists. Poorboys Iron Remover is pretty good though, as Poorboys products tend to be. It doesn't appear to be readily available in the UK just yet though which is a shame really. Like most fallout removers, when you open the bottle indoors, you get the typical rotting corpse stench however when actually using it there's a more detergenty scent to it - it's not a sweet scent like Korrosol, but it's not the typical horrendous stench either, so it's more pleasant to use than most. It seems to work quite quickly but is a thinner liquid than the almost-gel-like-Revolt, as such was starting to dry out after 10 minutes whilst Korrosol was still working away after the same amount of time. I can't comment on the standard Poorboys spray head that is supposed to come with every liquid Poorboys product as ECP ripped me off (I'm not bitter about that at all...), so instead I used an Atomizer Chemical Resistant spray head - the nozzle of which works in the same way as the standard Poorboys spray heads (no idea if Iron Remover gets a special spray head or not because... well, you know why!) so I can only presume it's comparable. Essentially, the spray pattern is adjustable; by turning the nozzle you can go from stream to spray at infinite increments. I opted to go more spray than stream and tried to get as close to the Korrosol spray pattern as possible to make it as fair a test as possible. In summary, it may not be quite as good as Korrosol but I think it'd give some of the more boutique brands a good run for their money. In typical Poorboys style the packaging is adequate and the price is (was!) aimed at the cheaper end of the market - although ECP have put the price up since I ordered it and it's now twice the price I paid (with a small discount) and more expensive than most other offerings. Presumably this will be due to importing it from the US, but either way it's just another reason I won't be ordering from ECP again time soon. It remains to be seen if any other UK stockists pick this up and what sort of price range it'll end up in if they do.

Shortly. First up, Poorboys Iron Remover. Applied in the first minute did this; Meanwhile on a different wheel Bilt Hamber Korrosol did this within the 1st minute; Both were then left to dwell for about 8-10 minutes, by which time Poorboys Iron Remover did it's best reconstruction of the Massacre of RAYSalonica (honestly, the best I could come up with. Sod off!); Meanwhile Korrosol had done this; They were both then rinsed off, given a few minutes to dry a little and then our contestants swapped wheels. Korrosol did this in the first minute on the wheel previously treated with Poorboys;

Right then, without any more further delay, here is the next exciting episode of the great fallout remover test. As previously mentioned, I intended to do a 3rd place play-off and a final to determine the best offering; the 1st place winner. But then I found the new Poorboys Iron Remover and I had to try it. In fact it's so new that Poorboys World UK doesn't stock it... but then they also don't stock the Black wax either so that doesn't really mean anything. So I ordered some from ECP. (You know those no further delays I mentioned? I lied, here's a delay whilst I have a bit of a rant!). Usually ECP are pretty damn reliable and quick. However they recently moved to a new warehouse and have been having... issues. This time I fell foul of these issues; I received only half my order. Late. And it wasn't even a complete half. I emailed them and was promptly ignored. I attempted the online chat and got cut off and shoved to the back of the (very long!) queue every time I got close to the front of the queue. Every time. EVERY time!! So I phoned them. And got cut off before anyone answered. Four times. So I emailed them again. And got ignored again. Then I got an email back... it was a request for feedback about the online chat that they never responded to. With a transcript of my messages. And no response. The feedback was not generous. But they still didn't get back to me. After 3 weeks I finally managed to get through to them on the online chat. Having sat at number 1 in the queue for 3 hours. From the minute the chat opened that day. Having explained that my order was incomplete and over 3 weeks late, they asked me what the problem was. And then I got cut off. Again. I left the chat open explaining everything with my order number and after another good few hours (must have been close to another 5 hours later, they hadn't long responded when I was packing up to go home from work. Anyway, they had left a message that they would send the missing items out "again". I received one of the missing items 10 days later. Over a month after ordering them. You'll note I said one of the missing items, not all of them, because although I was now in the possession of a bottle of Poorboys Iron Remover and the other item I had ordered (more on that later) I still didn't have the spray head that comes with the Poorboys Iron Remover (or rather doesn't come with it in this case). So it's completely useless to me. I'm still waiting for a response to the emails (and there are a number of them now...) about that but I couldn't be arsed spending another full day waiting for the online chat to work knowing full well I had enough spray heads to find at least one that would work. So the moral of this story; ECP have a become a bit s**t and there's a new contender which means either no 3rd place play-off (yet) or no final (yet). I opted for the former. But before we get to that, Poorboys was put up against Bilt Hamber Korrosol (because I had more of that). Usual routine to wash first; Gyeon Foam snowfoam pre-wash, rinsed, washed with some Waxybox sample shampoo or other and a selection of Megs Microfibre mit and Wheel Woolies then rinsed again, allowed to dry for a few minutes and then attacked with fallout removers. Which will follow shortly.

We have a winner! But first I need lunch. And there's some F1 on the telebox. So you'll just have to wait a bit longer. And @Ekona, that other thing you're waiting for; I'll have a definitive answer for you in the next day or two.

Guessed. Googled. Same thing really.

Maserati MC12.

It's too grabby and awkward to use for my liking. I do like the durability and water behaviour with it when it is on, I just don't like using it. Which kinda defeats the purpose of a spray sealant* for me. Especially as there are even easier & quicker products available now that provide a glossier, more durable finish with even better water behaviour. Similar to acrylic sealants, I think spray sealants in general are obsolete but BSD in particular is just too much of a sod to use for what it is. *And I still absolutely refuse to refer to is as QD!!

I still hate BSD... I do quite like C2v3, but I find it hard not to reach for a coating (or at least Wet Coat) especially as Can Coat isn't any more difficult to use than BSD!

Yes.

Corvette Shooting Brake?

Yup.

Prodrive P2.

You've got too much free time on your hands.

I don't I understand; why spent time, effort and money fixing something just to sell it off immediately? If you're going to sell it, why not do it now? Wasso did an LS conversion (Don't think it was specifically a 3 though) with the Zed Shed doing a fair amount of work on it. There's a thread in here somewhere.