New NSX (nailed it)

[Ekona]

The i8 is nothing like the NSX. The i8 is highly desirable, for one.

 

If Honda is making cars with the U.S. market first and foremost in their minds, then they're not a car company I want to buy a halo product from.

[StevoD]

Wait what

 

I didn't say the release date price of the gtr has anything to do with the nsx price

 

Also isn't the bmw 360bhp and having a quick Google for the new nsx Honda haven't released the bhp officially yet ?

 

With its Honda badge it will depreciate like a rock compared with I8

[StevoD]

So your saying the badge isn't important in the ideal world it doesn't but in reality people will go buy a 200bhp vw gti over a 200bhp Kia proceed because of the badge and prestige comparison and for that reason it's over priced

 

Of course some will buy it but they did the same last time and even with its senna links it flopped hardcore

 

It looks the same again same story with the rx7 fd it was priced to compete with the 911 whats there more of ? 911 , Mazda realised the issue then made the rx8 priced competitive

 

I'm not saying it's a @*!# car but for the price I don't think it's a seller

 

 

[StevoD]

Also forgive bad grammer and spelling etc I'm on phone

[Jetpilot]

I didnt say it was, you pitched it a £50k, almost 40% less than a Gtr

 

Are we moving the goalposts, just so i know?

 

the gtr and the i8 are very successful at there released retail price

 

Wait what

 

I didn't say the release date price of the gtr has anything to do with the nsx price

 

Also isn't the bmw 360bhp and having a quick Google for the new nsx Honda haven't released the bhp officially yet ?

 

With its Honda badge it will depreciate like a rock compared with I8

 

As above.

 

The Honda is talked about having 550hp

[Jetpilot]

So your saying the badge isn't important in the ideal world it doesn't but in reality people will go buy a 200bhp vw gti over a 200bhp Kia proceed because of the badge and prestige comparison and for that reason it's over priced

 

Of course some will buy it but they did the same last time and even with its senna links it flopped hardcore

 

It looks the same again same story with the rx7 fd it was priced to compete with the 911 whats there more of ? 911 , Mazda realised the issue then made the rx8 priced competitive

 

I'm not saying it's a @*!# car but for the price I don't think it's a seller

 

The Rx7 was pitched against the 944 Turbo actually

 

I know your not saying its sh**, your saying its worth 50k, thats the debate, nothing more, nothing less

 

I will let you carry on

Edited January 15, 2015 by Jetpilot

[Ekona]

I still don't see that as a major draw, I really don't. Same as the GTR for more money, same as the R8 for the same money but a more boring soundtrack.

[StevoD]

I still don't see that as a major draw, I really don't. Same as the GTR for more money, same as the R8 for the same money but a more boring soundtrack.

 

and a civic dashboard

[Ekona]

That too!

[AMT]

Hmm, that interior pic shows the inside in a different light, not as epic as first seen in the pics I saw, however I love the supercar swoopy dash, that's def a winner. I agree it does look a bit generic front and back and I think (hoping not mentioned and that I've missed it already) the issue is ..where its placed... I read 550bhp for £50K? That's pretty good, depending on the speed (itll be fast regardless with that power), but theres quite a few companies out there bumping up their retail area. The NSX was a day to day 'supercar'...except it wasn't with ...what..276bhp I think? Why couldn't Honda make something like this for the mid range market as I always seen it as a M3, lower 911 rival. I think Honda should have placed it around 350bhp up not the 550, there swinging in a totally high end market at that rate. My opinion mind you lol. I think it'd work better middle market as again for new cars some people are not gonna go..yes! HONDA.... mind you...GTR...Nissan? lol

Edited January 16, 2015 by AMT

[Ekona]

350bhp would've put it against the Boxster/Cayman, and there's no way it's winning that fight.

 

Sadly, the big guys really have most of the market sown up right now in terms of stuff that's desirable by the mass market.

[StevoD]

Now if they had made a mx5 gt86 competitor like say a new s2000 I would say it will sell like hot cakes

Edited January 16, 2015 by StevoD

[Ekona]

There could be a market there, certainly.

 

£25K, 200bhp from a turbo lump, don't go overboard on tech to keep the weight down, that could certainly steal MX5 sales.

[AMT]

Hmm, I didn't think about that Ekona lol. Its def more suited somewhere between caymans and the super stuff, one of its issue is its placement I think. Also does anybody else feel £25K is expensive for 200bhp? I know its a fair bit on from the early 2003/2004 era cars but still, you could get 197bhp etc for about £19K new...so when I see GT86's for £25K at first I just thought....what?? lol. Might just be me though. We def need an S2000 replacement I agree.

[StevoD]

Now if for 100k it came with the driver of this id say bargain

 

[Ekona]

Hmm, I didn't think about that Ekona lol. Its def more suited somewhere between caymans and the super stuff, one of its issue is its placement I think. Also does anybody else feel £25K is expensive for 200bhp? I know its a fair bit on from the early 2003/2004 era cars but still, you could get 197bhp etc for about £19K new...so when I see GT86's for £25K at first I just thought....what?? lol. Might just be me though. We def need an S2000 replacement I agree.

That's why I put it with a turbo lump, as that way at least it'd be tuneable up to about 270bhp with ease. Better value for money that way