marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Hi all, I've done an HPI check for a new car im buying using the private reg plate it's currently on, but it's come back with the following: Stolen - This registration was recorded stolen on the Police National Computer on 1 Jun 2007 by Greater Manchester Police. I've spoken to the owner who says that it was a car of his at the time (on that private plate) that was stolen and not the car im buying. He said if i check just the VIN it will come back fine. The story makes sense, but i've phoned up HPI to verify this and they dont know the answer. Does anyone have any knowledge/experience of this please? I've also called GMP to ask them but they were unable to help me. I've found 2 places online who check only the VIN (after 2 hours of searching) - one checks the National Criminal Insurance Database and the other checks the police databases of 13 countries (none of them UK!!) and both of these have come back clear. However neither of these have checked the Police National Computer. Can anyone offer any advice here? If anyone can help i can PM you the VIN. Cheers. Edited February 2, 2014 by marzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 I should also point out that there are no reports of it being on the V car register or any insurance claims against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Also, is there anything wrong with buying a car that has been previously stolen? I always thought it was a no no but there doesnt seem to be any info on whether or not it should be reflected in the price? Also looking on www.autocheck.co.uk which is a different site from the one i used, they say : A vehicle's previous stolen status and when it was recovered will not be reported in your AutoCheck. So reading this if i had used these guys it may not have been listed as stolen as it is not a current crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 He's correct, could well be on a different car which is why you must HPI against the VIN, never against the reg. I don't know of any HPI that would check the PNC, as they wouldn't keep any info of use. Essentially you're looking for finance outstanding or Cat recordable damage, anything else and it's a judgement call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almeida1234 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Stolen and recovered is grey bud. It should reflect on price but not much I normally text 83600 before in buy any car for history check and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 He's correct, could well be on a different car which is why you must HPI against the VIN, never against the reg. I don't know of any HPI that would check the PNC, as they wouldn't keep any info of use. Essentially you're looking for finance outstanding or Cat recordable damage, anything else and it's a judgement call. I cant find any HPI checks which check on just the VIN. The one i did allowed me to verify the VIN matches the details which were returned from the reg check, which it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Sorry, that's what I meant. Some just do the reg and think that's enough, when it's the VIN that has the details. I wouldn't worry. It's a £10k 996, at this end of the market any stolen markets are meaningless as long as the car is in one piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I dont agree, a 10k car that has been previously stolen will impact on resale/price, I cant imagine anyone would not be concerned, the fact that this is the lower price range for that car doesnt matter Is it a private seller or garage ? if private then did he actually own the car on this date is the first question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 I dont agree, a 10k car that has been previously stolen will impact on resale/price, I cant imagine anyone would not be concerned, the fact that this is the lower price range for that car doesnt matter Is it a private seller or garage ? if private then did he actually own the car on this date is the first question Its in the middle... it's a garage but it's the owners personal car. No he didnt own the Porsche back in 2007 when the 'registration' was reported stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Okay, i think im sorted. I've just done a check via HPICheck.com which is much more detailed than the MyCarCheck which i'd done first time round. This has clarified the situation - it is listed as stolen and a total insurance loss against the VRM only, and it even states the car that the VRM was on at the time (Mitsubishi Evo - just as the seller stated). So, im happy that the Porsche is a safe bet and that it's not got a scary history. Phew. That was a stressful afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 put that info with all the car docs - ready for when you sell it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 put that info with all the car docs - ready for when you sell it on Good shout, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14N Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 So, will we see you in a porker in March Chris, or you still coming shotgun with Spatt? And is the seller selling the car with the plate, as it was the plate that rang alarm bells. If not, then and future checks on the car will be done (as you initially did) on its current reg at the time (which won't be the one with a scary past). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 So, will we see you in a porker in March Chris, or you still coming shotgun with Spatt? And is the seller selling the car with the plate, as it was the plate that rang alarm bells. If not, then and future checks on the car will be done (as you initially did) on its current reg at the time (which won't be the one with a scary past). Good question... i think i'll still take spatt up on his offer though, for old time's sake! The plate is not being sold with the car (well it is - but then i am to return it to him asap when the documentation comes through.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsexr Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I do like a happy ending..... and i`m not talking masage....although i wouldn`t mind one of them either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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