josh2005 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hey everyone, bit of a newbie here! I have a 2004 Azure 350z and have a couple of issues and am unsure how to sort it! At some point in its life my Z has had a new front bumper put on, unfortunately it was replaced with one which doesn't have xenon washers! I believe come MOT time this will now mean the will fail it's MOT! I didn't know how easy it is to either retrofit some to a bumper or even put a new bumper onto the car. If I am needing a new bumper I would prefer to upgrade to the 06+ front end but would the different bumper fit onto my 2004 model? I am happy to have the car sprayed it is just which option to use! Obviously if there is no option but to replace with an 04 bumper I will bite the bullet, I hate to think of the cost though! Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yes it will fit :-) I have an 07 with a 2003-2005 bumper (long story) lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 As above, the bumpers will fit. I would however check that the parts required to operate the washers are still in situ or are at least available to fit onto a new bumper, I'm thinking here that some of the mechanism, mainly the washers themselves will have been removed to fit the bumper that's on your car now Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh2005 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thanks for the replies, that's great news! Is there ever any problems with things like the lights not lining up with the bumper or the fitting brackets not matching or is it a direct fit replacement? Also are the washers again just plug and play or are the 06> versions different with wiring/piping etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gball1973 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yes it will fit :-) +1 Yup , it will fit, but you'll need to get the complete headlight washers (mounts/brackets, covers and units themselves) from a facelift car because they are different from the pre-facelift IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Don't take this as gospel, but I think the MoT regulations on headlight washers states that they have to be operational if the car is fitted with them. Since your car isn't currently fitted with washer jets, technically you don't have to have them. But I guess that all depends on who does you MoT, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Don't take this as gospel, but I think the MoT regulations on headlight washers states that they have to be operational if the car is fitted with them. Since your car isn't currently fitted with washer jets, technically you don't have to have them. But I guess that all depends on who does you MoT, though. I think you'll find it says that they have to be present and operational if they were fitted as standard when the car left the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Don't take this as gospel, but I think the MoT regulations on headlight washers states that they have to be operational if the car is fitted with them. Since your car isn't currently fitted with washer jets, technically you don't have to have them. But I guess that all depends on who does you MoT, though. I think you'll find it says that they have to be present and operational if they were fitted as standard when the car left the factory. OK, thanks for clearing that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz62 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Don't take this as gospel, but I think the MoT regulations on headlight washers states that they have to be operational if the car is fitted with them. Since your car isn't currently fitted with washer jets, technically you don't have to have them. But I guess that all depends on who does you MoT, though. I think you'll find it says that they have to be present and operational if they were fitted as standard when the car left the factory. OK, thanks for clearing that up i think you will find that if they are not there they are not tested there for don't need to work, regardless of them being fitted from the factory same goes for the rear whiper , but then again its down to the tester but how do you test something that isnt there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz62 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 i have a set of washers if you need them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 i think you will find that if they are not there they are not tested there for don't need to work, regardless of them being fitted from the factory same goes for the rear whiper , but then again its down to the tester but how do you test something that isnt there As I've said above, they must be present and working: 3. High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps, washing and levelling system To keep the test up to date with modern technology, new checks have been added in respect of High Intensity Discharge (HID) and Light Emitting Diode (LED) lamps. Compared with halogen headlamps, HID lamps are more efficient, have a longer service life and are much brighter; up to three times brighter in fact. The benefit of this extra brightness is that it enables drivers using HID lights to see approximately 30% further up the road ahead than for a halogen system. The downside of this extra brightness is the potential to cause excessive dazzle to oncoming traffic. To combat this, HID headlamps often have advanced electronics that control the shape of the headlamp beam to avoid dazzle when the car climbs or descends hills and likewise when the vehicle is accelerating or braking. Dazzle can also be caused if the lamps are dirty or aimed too high due to, for example, carrying rear seat passengers and/or heavy items in the boot. Vehicles with HID headlamps are therefore required to have a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self levelling, which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems. The presence and operation of these headlamp cleaning and levelling devices has been added to the test. Therefore, if a mandatory headlamp levelling or cleaning device is missing, inoperative or otherwise obviously defective this will be a reason for rejection. Source: http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/customer-inf ... s-2010.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz62 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 and how would the MOT tester know they were fitted if they are no longer there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 and how would the MOT tester know they were fitted if they are no longer there? Hopefully the guy testing the safety of your car can recognise HID lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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