Zugara Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Don't want too upset those who sell this item Thats my opinion, said without malice, just an honest appraisal of what I feel about the spacer. No more no less. If it affects your sales, sorry I was under the impression that freedom of speech was available to forum members My argument is this: Nissan R&D would have done countless tests to find the optimal air circulation around the plenum, agreed? So, Who designed and verified the spacer was an "added" benefit to the air circulation, I would be very interested in seeing the document. I don't worry about the hp gains/losses, show me the actual air flow charts and extra cubic capacity of air that the spacer provides, and how it affects the air flow to the front 2 cylinders for their benefit. When I fitted mine, TBH I didn't have that WOW factor I thought I was going to have after reading the hype surrounding them. So for me I was a tad disillusioned by it. If I thought it was great, then I would praise it to the hilt, But I don't, Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 As said a few times, only really worthwhile if you are going to get an upRev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 No worries, everyone is entitled to free speech I just felt it was a bit harsh on Niko, I do try to ensure I sell the best products which is why I stay clear of sloped spacers, unbranded items and most replica's. Motordyne is argueably the best spacer brand on the market and it is proven, as with most performance mods you get more out of them with an uprev as we all know but I didn't sell the spacer to Niko saying it will give you 15bhp extra, he pm'd me asking if I had any in stock and I did. As for this.... Nissan R&D would have done countless tests to find the optimal air circulation around the plenum, agreed? Completely disagree im afraid... do you think if that was the case then they wouldnt have designed a better: Exhaust Airbox Ypipe Cats Aerodynamics ECU Im glad they didn't though as there would be no need for suppliers like me Don't want too upset those who sell this item Thats my opinion, said without malice, just an honest appraisal of what I feel about the spacer. No more no less. If it affects your sales, sorry I was under the impression that freedom of speech was available to forum members My argument is this: Nissan R&D would have done countless tests to find the optimal air circulation around the plenum, agreed? So, Who designed and verified the spacer was an "added" benefit to the air circulation, I would be very interested in seeing the document. I don't worry about the hp gains/losses, show me the actual air flow charts and extra cubic capacity of air that the spacer provides, and how it affects the air flow to the front 2 cylinders for their benefit. When I fitted mine, TBH I didn't have that WOW factor I thought I was going to have after reading the hype surrounding them. So for me I was a tad disillusioned by it. If I thought it was great, then I would praise it to the hilt, But I don't, Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 My next step will be an exhaust then I'll probably be done so I'll get the up rev done at some point next year. As I don't want to forced induction as that's defiantly out of my budget Cheers guys for your advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Tarmac, I didn't know where he bought it from and it certainly wasn't an attack on you or what products you sell. I have seen what you sell with group buys etc and i know that you supply quality gear Niko, wasn't a post to put you off modding, if your doing the up rev at some stage, then it make sense to have it fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Chris, don't bother arguing with Zugara.... he knows less than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Shut up Dave, trying to have an adult conversation here. Contribute something worthwhile...... Chris, don't bother arguing with Zugara.... he knows less than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Zugara. Don't worry about it, I take everything as advice nothing to hart. I know everyone on here is here to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Can i ask what MY car you have fitted the spacer too? If its to a 276 bhp engine then you should notice a slight difference. If its to a rev-up engine you wont notice any difference unless fitted with a mrev2 lower collector. Of course has already stated they will benefit more with an up-rev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 No worries, I just like my customers to be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Ive got a 54 plate 276h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Shut up Dave, trying to have an adult conversation here. Contribute something worthwhile...... Chris, don't bother arguing with Zugara.... he knows less than me Zugara + Adult Conversation = Fail mind you Me + something worthwhile also = fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 All right all right....... I was just trying to be academic, now thats a word you may well need to look up........ Shut up Dave, trying to have an adult conversation here. Contribute something worthwhile...... Chris, don't bother arguing with Zugara.... he knows less than me Zugara + Adult Conversation = Fail mind you Me + something worthwhile also = fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 In every thread you slate it yet you never state if it was you or a garage who fit it and what year your car was. Also agree with tarmac your giving a sub 30k car way more credit then its due, I agree its better than the sum of its parts but its not the optimal is it? Don't want too upset those who sell this item Thats my opinion, said without malice, just an honest appraisal of what I feel about the spacer. No more no less. If it affects your sales, sorry I was under the impression that freedom of speech was available to forum members My argument is this: Nissan R&D would have done countless tests to find the optimal air circulation around the plenum, agreed? So, Who designed and verified the spacer was an "added" benefit to the air circulation, I would be very interested in seeing the document. I don't worry about the hp gains/losses, show me the actual air flow charts and extra cubic capacity of air that the spacer provides, and how it affects the air flow to the front 2 cylinders for their benefit. When I fitted mine, TBH I didn't have that WOW factor I thought I was going to have after reading the hype surrounding them. So for me I was a tad disillusioned by it. If I thought it was great, then I would praise it to the hilt, But I don't, Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I fitted it, and i had an 07 zed, what difference that makes I don't know In every thread you slate it yet you never state if it was you or a garage who fit it and what year your car was. Also agree with tarmac your giving a sub 30k car way more credit then its due, I agree its better than the sum of its parts but its not the optimal is it? Don't want too upset those who sell this item Thats my opinion, said without malice, just an honest appraisal of what I feel about the spacer. No more no less. If it affects your sales, sorry I was under the impression that freedom of speech was available to forum members My argument is this: Nissan R&D would have done countless tests to find the optimal air circulation around the plenum, agreed? So, Who designed and verified the spacer was an "added" benefit to the air circulation, I would be very interested in seeing the document. I don't worry about the hp gains/losses, show me the actual air flow charts and extra cubic capacity of air that the spacer provides, and how it affects the air flow to the front 2 cylinders for their benefit. When I fitted mine, TBH I didn't have that WOW factor I thought I was going to have after reading the hype surrounding them. So for me I was a tad disillusioned by it. If I thought it was great, then I would praise it to the hilt, But I don't, Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Im sure on 06+ you need a mrev2 for decent gains but on a 03+ it makes a big difference anyway. Are you sure you fit it right? No air leaks? I fitted it, and i had an 07 zed, what difference that makes I don't knowIn every thread you slate it yet you never state if it was you or a garage who fit it and what year your car was. Also agree with tarmac your giving a sub 30k car way more credit then its due, I agree its better than the sum of its parts but its not the optimal is it? Don't want too upset those who sell this item Thats my opinion, said without malice, just an honest appraisal of what I feel about the spacer. No more no less. If it affects your sales, sorry I was under the impression that freedom of speech was available to forum members My argument is this: Nissan R&D would have done countless tests to find the optimal air circulation around the plenum, agreed? So, Who designed and verified the spacer was an "added" benefit to the air circulation, I would be very interested in seeing the document. I don't worry about the hp gains/losses, show me the actual air flow charts and extra cubic capacity of air that the spacer provides, and how it affects the air flow to the front 2 cylinders for their benefit. When I fitted mine, TBH I didn't have that WOW factor I thought I was going to have after reading the hype surrounding them. So for me I was a tad disillusioned by it. If I thought it was great, then I would praise it to the hilt, But I don't, Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Im sure on 06+ you need a mrev2 for decent gains but on a 03+ it makes a big difference anyway. From what I have read on here you need upper and lower plenum spacers on a revup Zed, I can't remember if Paul had a bulge or not if he did it certainly wasn't much to write home about..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Im sure on 06+ you need a mrev2 for decent gains but on a 03+ it makes a big difference anyway. From what I have read on here you need upper and lower plenum spacers on a revup Zed, I can't remember if Paul had a bulge or not if he did it certainly wasn't much to write home about..... If he had a bulge then he never had a spacer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Im sure on 06+ you need a mrev2 for decent gains but on a 03+ it makes a big difference anyway. From what I have read on here you need upper and lower plenum spacers on a revup Zed, I can't remember if Paul had a bulge or not if he did it certainly wasn't much to write home about..... If he had a bulge then he never had a spacer well his was a facelift Zed so that explains why the plenum spacer did bugger all, he needed the lower one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 No bulge guys, only where it counts Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Im sure on 06+ you need a mrev2 for decent gains but on a 03+ it makes a big difference anyway. From what I have read on here you need upper and lower plenum spacers on a revup Zed, I can't remember if Paul had a bulge or not if he did it certainly wasn't much to write home about..... No lower spacer on a rev-up. You need the upper plenum spacer and the lower mrev2 collector (on the left in the pic) Bonnet buldge not required either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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