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Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 That does look quite tricky... As with most guides it will probably make more sense as you are doing it.. Car electrics is daunting to me, is it easy to wire up ??? Would be nice to know what sort of prices the traders would charge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shire350Z Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 great write up buddy!!! just fine tuning mine at the minute making the bracket even stronger so will have more pics up soon and wanting to try and keep it as tight as i can to the middle bar so the gap is less noticable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alessandro Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Good write up Rich mine wasn't on off bumper job but, dont ask me how they did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlexZ Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Looks like a very nice job mate, I work in a bodyshop aswell. Not sure if you should have drilled the front bumper carrier. This is pritty important in a front impact accident. They design the carrier to take the man impact at the front with the front panel be plastic. Now you have drilled the carrier you have changed the structual design for the carrier...I hope it work aswell as it should if you need it in the furture lol.. Not sure if the body shop you use is BSI PAS/125, if they are they shouldnt be drilling bumper carriers lol.. Regards Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlexZ Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Looks like a very nice job mate, I work in a bodyshop aswell. Not sure if you should have drilled the front bumper carrier. This is pritty important in a front impact accident. They design the carrier to take the man impact at the front with the front panel be plastic. Now you have drilled the carrier you have changed the structual design for the carrier...I hope it work aswell as it should if you need it in the furture lol.. Not sure if the body shop you use is BSI PAS/125, if they are they shouldnt be drilling bumper carriers lol.. Regards Alex my bodyshop is one of the best in the country. i think they won bodyshop of the year in 2008, trust them and their work implicitly. they are BMW approved which bit do you mean by front bumper carrier, are you referring to the aluminium crash beam across the front. then its fine, it will be way within its impact strength, especially as its design to deform and not sheer. its izod and charpy factors won't be affected by those two 3 mm bolts. and thats as an BSc engineer who specialised in material science if your referring to the other area its mounted to, thats not structural Evening dude, yeh I was reffering the the alloy bar, we call that the bumper carrier in the trade... Were also approved by some major manufacture like, VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, Mazda, Ford, Merc, Proton etc... There a company called Thatcham (http://www.thatcham.org/research/index.jsp?page=34) who research vehicles and accidents. Every new car released is crash tested at the Thatcham research centre (very impressive place, been there a couple of times), then there engineers decide were's best to cut the damaged panels out to return the vehicle back to there original structual strenght. These are the people who decided what times are given to the repair centre etc to replace all body parts and how best to go about repairing a damaged vehicle. Every vehicle we get in for repair we have to request certain information (repair methodology) like torque setting etc. We have to request this info on safety releated item i.e the bumper carrier, windscreen etc etc. If we refit any safety related item without this info we could lose our British Standard certification. I would have thought if the torque settings made a difference to an accident two holes in the only structual part of the front end would, "not including the chassis legs". I'm not looking to pick faults, just wanted you to know that this may have affected the strenght of that designed part now it has holes in it. Were instructed to replace these items even if there dented, let alone craked or snapped or holey lol. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlexZ Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 for those that might worry about it the bracing could be bonded on instead Good thinking batman or maybe a wrap around bracket that wraps around the hole bumper carrier... Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlexZ Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Defo mate, the main reason I post the stuff ive done myself Many heads make easy work and all that bolloks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D4XNY Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I fitted this to the bottom of the car.........bad idea! When going for MOT the mechanism scraped on the car jack in the pit... Resulting in a snapped cable..... I have taken the unit off so i can repair the cable.... Has anyone got any pics of the cable mechanism underneath the unit?? I just need to know where to thread the cable again... Many thanks if anyone can help?? Dan EDIT: All fixed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jub Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Good write up Rich mine wasn't on off bumper job but, dont ask me how they did it Any tips on doing it without removing the bumper? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shire350Z Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 to do the job properly you really need to take the bumper off, its not a big job to do it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alessandro Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Good write up Rich mine wasn't on off bumper job but, dont ask me how they did it Any tips on doing it without removing the bumper? Cheers My meccanic did it for me, should be far for you either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Where can you get the kit from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rodgeevans Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Every vehicle we get in for repair we have to request certain information (repair methodology) like torque setting etc. We have to request this info on safety releated item i.e the bumper carrier, windscreen etc etc. If we refit any safety related item without this info we could lose our British Standard certification. I would have thought if the torque settings made a difference to an accident two holes in the only structual part of the front end would, "not including the chassis legs". I'm not looking to pick faults, just wanted you to know that this may have affected the strenght of that designed part now it has holes in it. Were instructed to replace these items even if there dented, let alone craked or snapped or holey lol. Alex i drilled the holes in the crash bar, and as these holes have metal put back in them i'm not worried. i'm fully aware of thatcham and understand why they discuss correct torque settings, as the bolt goes in and they aren't small bolts over torquing will warp the aluminium at the mounting point hence changing its shearing deformation factors. i also understand that a crash bar thats been in a crash and shows signs of bumps or dinks etc; just like a crash helmet after a crash, you just throw it out. these 2 bolted holes, won't affect its capability to function Just to say in steel girders they often cut round holes into them to make them stronger not sure if the same could be applied to a crash bar but holes don't always make something weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor austin Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Just as an asside I know of someone that got caught using a retractable plate and ended up with a short custodial sentance due to 'peverting the course of justice' all due to speeding and using a retractable number plate. So if you use it be sure you cant be traced...I am told also that you could also have your vehicle crushed.... oh same applies to the reflective coatings!! its not a fair world...gone are the days you had to keep your eyes peeled if you go a bit quick!! Be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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