lnorange Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I have not had my first 350 for long but it has a brake fault. If the car has been parked for a while and I reverse then move forward the first time I brake it sounds as if the antilock kicks in for a second. One I have braked once the problem doesn't happen again until the car stands for a while. If its been parked for a short time, no problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated!! Cheers Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 i think this is just a natural brake thin by the sounds of it. as a car stands still for a while especially if its rained, the brakes naturally rust. if its left long enough they can almost stick themselves together. once you pull away it brakes this, (which might be the antilock feel your getting) and you use your brakes which clears any excess. and then they'll be fine. mine does it when i leave it in the garage over night if i drove home in the rain. once the summer hits you'll probably find it won't do it, but all this extra water and road salt, speed up the surface corrsion process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITZ@CougarStore Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Its quite a common occurrence when the cars been left standing, more so now because of the wet/cold days we’ve been having recently, lots of seizing taking place but once the initial seize (clunk noise) is broken all should be fine… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 CS the brake specialist lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITZ@CougarStore Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 CS the brake specialist lol Green, Red and Yellow, tomorrow it'll be the Bluestuff... Your PM reminded me again of Nissan pricing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 il do my homework on pink n purplestuff for 2moro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 when it comes to brakes they also do brown stuff, but thats generally what happens when they fail i had green stuff pads years ago and they were good pads, especially for the price, but did kick up alot of brake dust. ii here the red stuff is better, and thats what is going on mine in about 4000 miles, and i shall be visiting CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnorange Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions but I don't think its the brake sticking after they have been wet. Its not a clunk, it feels like the antilock kicks in, a quick vibration you get just for a few seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidS14 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You can get this type of affect with certain pads when the car has been parked for a while, depending on the binders and additives in the friction material. If the pad is in contact with a section of the disc for a long period you can get a surface reaction between the friction material and the rotor surface. This is accelerated if there is an electrolytic solution present (salt water this time of year) and can lead to a deposit being left on the disc when the car is moved. On your first brake application you then hear/feel a slight vibration as the friction material of the pad encounters the deposit on each revolution of the rotor until it's removed. An easy way to check for this is next time you leave the car for a while just move it forward about a foot and then have a look at the brake disks. You should be able to see the area of the rotor that the pad was in contact with whilst it was parked. I have R34 brembos on my 200 and if it's parked for a few days I get the same thing on my first brake application (that's with DS2500 pads) and if I check the rotors I can see the outline of the pads on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-B Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Its the esp, it tests itself as you pull away for the first time, nothing to worry about mate, its even stated in the handbook somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You can get this type of affect with certain pads when the car has been parked for a while, depending on the binders and additives in the friction material. If the pad is in contact with a section of the disc for a long period you can get a surface reaction between the friction material and the rotor surface. This is accelerated if there is an electrolytic solution present (salt water this time of year) and can lead to a deposit being left on the disc when the car is moved. On your first brake application you then hear/feel a slight vibration as the friction material of the pad encounters the deposit on each revolution of the rotor until it's removed. An easy way to check for this is next time you leave the car for a while just move it forward about a foot and then have a look at the brake disks. You should be able to see the area of the rotor that the pad was in contact with whilst it was parked. I have R34 brembos on my 200 and if it's parked for a few days I get the same thing on my first brake application (that's with DS2500 pads) and if I check the rotors I can see the outline of the pads on the surface. This is true, especially if the pads are warm when you stop. I get this which is why I now park up with the car in gear and not on the handbrake and try not to let the car stop on the brakes when pulling up to park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnorange Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 Thanks for the tips and suggestions guys. Sounds like the norm!! Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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